Besides CHECKMATE,What would be your boat of choice? [Archive]

Eriktheviking

03-21-2003, 09:12 AM

My first pick was the WELLCRAFT SCARAB,but I guess they are no longer. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I've always liked FORMULAs and FOUNTAINs because of their involvement in racing. They look like they're still a quality piece. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gifI sure you guys will say if they aren't!

Eriktheviking

03-21-2003, 09:12 AM

Bill

03-21-2003, 09:30 AM

Erik, I agree with you, I like those brands too. It takes alot of horsepower to make a Formula fast, they are heavy boats, but they are GREAT in the rough stuff. I wish they did graphics in the gel. I absolutely love Fountain. I think Reggie is a genius, his wife isn't bad either. The wind was let out of my sails when Rick told me they have a cracking problem. When I lived in Wisconsin, most of my friends had Fountains, and nothing could compete. Checkmate never made anything big enough for people to consider. I also had a friend who had a 35 Cafe' Racer, it was slow, but a beautiful boat. Don't here too much about those Cigarettes anymore, seems Donzi is making a big comeback.

Bill

03-21-2003, 09:32 AM

I know this is a checkmate site, but I am talking boats and sizes that Mate does make. I hope I do not get repromanded again.

Z06

03-21-2003, 09:41 AM

If you read the top part of it Bill. If I recall it said A Non Checkmate Forum, talk about whatever you like. I like (and dream) about skater. If I were to get anything, it would be the 28 Pleasure with twin 300X's. That would easily push it over 100. Fountain is another good name. Douglas Marine, Pier 57, all fancy expensive names with beautifual and fast boats! http://www.checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/thumb.gif

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Craig

03-21-2003, 10:33 AM

A few years ago, down here in Dubuque, IA, we had a dealer try to make a go of selling Fountains. Sure, they are a fast hull with a great bottom design, but we went and checked out the 3 he had sitting there. Talk about junk. Bad lines, full of waves, sloppy fiberglass and gel work, and the graphics were either painted on or decals. (I'm actually downplaying it here). They were a perfect example of very poor craftsmanship. I've seen Fountains at boat shows as well. You have to admit, aesthetics is not on their priority list. Sorry if I offend, maybe I'm spoiled, I'm use to Checkmate quality.

I understand they are solid and very fast, though...I have not driven one or ridden in one.

-Craig

Z06

03-21-2003, 10:41 AM

Does anyone remember that totalled Foutain of Ebay? That was crazy. Now tell me who would buy that? I havn't heard much bad until now. I don't think many of use will be affording one anyways so thats why Checkmate is here. Pretty cool how it costs less money for better craftsmanship and a overall better boat!

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Craig

03-21-2003, 10:44 AM

Just another comment: Have you ever wondered why your Checkmate looks as good as it does? Why the lines are straight and smooth, and the graphics are almost perfect? Not to mention the way it handles and it's solid construction?

Read J.W.'s article on Checkmate boats at the Scream&Fly site.

-Craig

Z06

03-21-2003, 10:52 AM

I remember Jim's Article over at S&F. It was very well done and gives people a good insight on Checkmate Boats Inc. Can anyone really say anything wrong about the boats? Not the company itself, the actual boats?

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MikeW

03-21-2003, 03:43 PM

Cigarettes
Apache
Pantera In the big boats

....Do miss my Liberator Tunnel hull http://www.checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

gslinger

03-21-2003, 05:28 PM

For pure ride I don't think that there is much out there that touches a cig. I have three friends that have fountains 2)35'and a 42' Fast boats, but if it gets a little rough you would rather be a in something different. I like the active thunders and cigs myself. I took a ride last year in a 46 black thunder what a ride. speed of a performance boat and luxury of a cruiser. For value sunsation makes a solid boat.

03-21-2003, 08:01 PM

I like the kind of boat that I own, low sleek outboard powered lake boats. If Checkmate was no more, I'd be chasing: Allison, Triad/STV, or the new Hydrostream.

1995 2100BR/1995 225 Promax/23" Tempest

Z06

03-21-2003, 10:18 PM

That new 'Stream is what? A Voyageur? I forget its been to long. I agree with you Jim, any wicked O/B boat that can go around 90-100 MPH. Maybe Randy can set me up with something? http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Chris

03-21-2003, 11:17 PM

I wouldn't mind a nice little Donzi sweet 16'. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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BUKKAKIBLASTER

03-25-2004, 07:12 PM

Speed is great but comfort of BIG Sea Ray Cruiser would be nice. http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/sssh.gif

175checkmate

03-25-2004, 08:29 PM

If mate where no longer I would have a Triad/STV Euro, 4 seater tunnel hull, with as much HP as I could get. 100+ Yea baby. Allison grand sport V bottom with the same HP.

Dave Y.

03-25-2004, 08:33 PM

my other dream boat would be a 33ft Eliminator with twin 500hp's or even bigger!lol I do like the cat's!! they look awesome going down the lake!

Chris

03-25-2004, 10:09 PM

I'm with Gus. I would love a nice Triad, or a Progression would do nicely as well. http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/thumb.gif

Bubba

03-26-2004, 01:19 AM

i like the ARRIVA 2552 502 MPI 1997 model

F150GT

03-26-2004, 10:48 PM

If I couldnt have a Checkmate:
For speed I would love an Allison V, There hull efficancy is incredible, Wouldnt it be a blast to run over 100 with a V4, They claim it is possible.
For lake Ontario I would like a SuperBoat 21-23' or an Intimadator. There good ruff water boats but small enough for easy trailerability and a lot of fun.
F150GT

jkeiper

03-27-2004, 12:12 AM

I would have an STV Euro ski. Next choice would be the new Hydrostream.

Jim

Convincor283

03-27-2004, 09:00 AM

Last year when I was looking for a boat my second choice was a Sunsation but luckily I found my MATE.

fastskipper

03-30-2004, 01:20 PM

I love my convincor but......if I could have any boat it would be a Sonic 386.

http://www.sonicboats.com/index_frames.asp

senator-holland

03-30-2004, 07:31 PM

a brand new heesen would fit my ultimate dreamyacht including helideck and jacuzzi in the corner cruising over the med to italy...
i geuss that will remain to me as a dreamboat for the rest of my life..

heesen (http://www.heesenshipyards.nl/)

for rest a sunseeker i geuss for retirement...

Chris E

04-03-2004, 01:22 PM

I've been reading through all these boats - but not one of you has mentioned Bayliner or their sport boat equal - Baja. What gives? http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/lol.gif

04-04-2004, 09:21 AM

http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/xxrotflmao.gif You're too funny Chris E! Buddy of mine visited Baja last week. Baja boats are barely being made right now. The factory is actually making boats for some of the other corporate brands right now, Polaris being one.
I think the poor quality reputation with Baja boats is getting so wide-spread on the offshore forums (Offshore Only, SpeedWake, Hot Boat, etc.) that it's finally killing the sales of Baja. They're only hurting themselves by building chopper gun hulls!

Keep up the good work Checkmate!!!!!!!!!

illMATTic

04-08-2004, 01:53 PM

I myself am a fan of the older boats. I like the low slung speed boat type. an old school tahiti would be nice, plush seats, twice pipes, and a bright ass paint job. just enough room in those for me and my three ladie friends. http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/thumb.gif

cooperider

05-15-2004, 12:16 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Chris:
I wouldn't mind a nice little Donzi sweet 16'. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Checkmate-Boats.com-The Fanatics Home! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Now that's a classic. Put me down for one also.

JUPITER PULSARE

05-15-2004, 02:09 PM

ALRIGHT BOYS AND GIRLS, THIS ONE NEEDS TO BE BROKEN DOWN INTO CATEGORIES. BOATS I WOULD LIKE TO OWN:
OUTBOARD SINGLE MOTOR V BOTTOM: CHECKMATE PULSARE 2100 (OWN NOW)/OUTBOARD SINGLE MOTOR CAT: 18' TALON (ONLY BY GARY ARMINGTON)/ I.O. SINGLE ENGINE V BOTTOM UNDER 25':ACTIVE THUNDER 25' TANTRUM, I.O. SINGLE ENGINE V BOTTOM OVER 25': VELOCITY VR-1 26' OR 29' SC, I.O. SINGLE ENGINE CAT: 25' TALON (AGAIN ONLY BY GARY ARMINGTON-NOT HUSTLER), TWIN ENGINE I.O. V BOTTOM UNDER 35': FOUNTAIN 35' LIGHTNING EXECUTIONER, TWIN ENGINE I.O. V BOTTOM OVER 35': 37' ACTIVE THUNDER AVH, TWIN ENGINE CAT UNDER 35': 32' DOUGLAS SKATER, TWIN ENGINE CAT OVER 35':NORTECH 36', V BOTTOM OVER 40': CIGARETTE 42' TIGER, CAT OVER 40':MTI 42' PR.........MAN, I COULD GO ON LIKE THIS FOR HOURS!! http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif NOW IF I COULD ONLY WIN THAT DAMN FLORIDA LOTTERY!! http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

senator-holland

05-15-2004, 03:38 PM

what about cigarette 30?

but the price hurts....

BOB'S 283

05-15-2004, 06:37 PM

i/o ........cigarette . if i break another v8 , 36 ft concept center console w/cuddy, with 3 mercs hangin off the back. but hey maybe i'll get lucky this time no general motors parts in this new one .100% speacialty market parts.

Chris

05-15-2004, 10:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JW:
http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/xxrotflmao.gif You're too funny Chris E! Buddy of mine visited Baja last week. Baja boats are barely being made right now. The factory is actually making boats for some of the other corporate brands right now, Polaris being one.
I think the poor quality reputation with Baja boats is getting so wide-spread on the offshore forums (Offshore Only, SpeedWake, Hot Boat, etc.) that it's finally killing the sales of Baja. They're only hurting themselves by building chopper gun hulls!

Keep up the good work Checkmate!!!!!!!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And don't forget Baja Marine Forums too. Their hottest forum is the complaint department. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Redboat

05-16-2004, 01:32 PM

Can't think of not owning a Checkmate , but maybe a Cougar , Eliminator , or maybe a flat bottom .
Redboat

senator-holland

05-16-2004, 03:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JW:
Baja boats are barely being made right now. The factory is actually making boats for some of the other corporate brands right now, Polaris being one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

so it's a matter of time till they drop out of the market?

Chris E

05-16-2004, 10:21 PM

Helmich:

Not to worry, Bahahaha is owned by Sea Ray - They're not going anywhere yet. They do have an agreement with Polaris to build their oversized PWC's.

JUPITER PULSARE

05-17-2004, 12:45 PM

REDBOAT, NOW THERE IS ONE THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION IN MY EARLIER POST; A COUGAR MTR WITH A 300 PROMAX, NOW THAT WOULD BE ONE CLASSY RIG!!

Bob Scanlon

06-23-2004, 10:17 PM

Ive already got my dreamboat in my 42 Tiger...

But if I could have another it would have to be a 36 Nor-tech cat with twin 1000's

I had a chance to drive one in the Keys this winter at 126mph and it was awsome and the boat had about 20 mph left in her !!!!

SCT

06-24-2004, 12:12 AM

A restored 28' wooden Lyman. The best Great Lake boat ever made!

Bob Scanlon

06-26-2004, 01:33 PM

almost forgot, A triple cockpit Hacker Craft would be right up on the top of my list also

JUPITER PULSARE

06-26-2004, 05:08 PM

THE ORIGINAL STEVE STEPP VELOCITY LINE ARE GREAT BOATS. THE LARGE RAISED PAD WITH THE VARIABLE DEGREE DEADRISE HULL AND NOTCHED TRANSOM MADE THEM SLIPPERY FAST AND A BALL TO DRIVE. NOT FOR THE FAINT AT HEARTED. TO THIS VERY DAY THEY CAN KEEP UP WITH THE STEP HULLS WITHOUT THE HANDLING PROBLEMS THAT THE STEP HULLS HAVE. http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/thumb.gif

DONCONVINCER

07-07-2004, 10:58 AM

IF I HAD MY CHOICE OF ANYTHING..

HUSTLER 10 METER, TWIN 502'S WITH BLOWERS AND INNER COOLERS STAGER MOUNTED(1500HP+)SILENT CHOICE EXHAUST ,2 SPEED TRANIES WITH A SET OF #6'S. AND LETS NOT FORGET TO ADD A KILLER MUSIC SYSTEM

SOLID 150MPH + BOAT !!!!

BUT I STILL WOULD NOT WANT TO GIVE UP MY CHECKMATE...

montiboats24

07-19-2004, 03:22 AM

i used to have a donzi but it was kinda slow and i din win many of the races i ended up in it was a great rough water boat but waisted hella money on gas and if i had to get another boat and it couldnt be a checkmate i would look for a 22 or 24 progression those things are sharp.....

jgoshow

07-20-2004, 09:25 PM

the boat of my dreams is a 40ft.Signiture Catamaran with the twin blown 502's along with a wife that nets 10million a year...(should be enough to cover fuel and some upgrades)but remember,i would not have to work,just follow the good weather

cooperider

07-21-2004, 12:39 PM

I went past Baja the other day and saw about a half a parkinglot full of decks that need repaired. My inside source tells me the have a big problem with airbubbles. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BOB'S 283

07-22-2004, 10:18 AM

i have been having a blast reading their complaint section on teambajamarine.com and more recently on speedwake . owners are bashing the hell out of them lately . their warranty dept has to be going full steam !!!!!!