Reed's Trimate 2 overhaul

[175checkmate]

Reed is starting the project. Looks good.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/checkedout/Gregtrimate3.jpg
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[wickedrister]

Gotta love it, Fixing up a Trimate http://www.checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/thumb.gif

[Reed]

I had a question for the Checkmate Gods from a humble wanna be, why is the floor of my 1979 Tri-mate 2 totally full of foam, there are no channels of drainage or condensation to evaporate?? I descovered this when I put the wood in for a temp fix, and I went to mount a bilge pump in the collection drain area, ( 175 Checkmate did you extract the foam from your boat? the boat is rated at 900 lbs dry weight how much weight will I loose but triming out the foam, there is foam in both rear corners of my boat. thanks from a dedicated wannabe Reed http://www.checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/thumb.gif

[checkmate-god]

Did, you call? Actually the person to ask would be Coop. http://checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/sssh.gif He owns the molds to that boat.

[175checkmate]

Reed, here is wet I found as far as foam when I lifted the floor. There was foam running from about a foot from the transom all the way to the bow. It was wet, heavy and stunk BAD. I removed all the foam and never installed new stuff. I did not figure there was enough under there to float the boat anyway. If I remember right the foam I took out weighed about 150lb
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[cooperider]

At the time your boat was built, I believe there were different floatation requirements. Today that boat needs much more foam than what was put in back then. I believe that the foam under the floor was more for keeping the floor from flexing when you walked on it, than for floatation. It also kept it from sounding so hollow.

[Reed]

thanks very much so if I take the foam out of the floor I will shave 150 lbs from the 900 lbs of the boat hmmm cool more top-end lol it has foam in the corners by the transome looks like a 1.5 ft square on each side http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[cooperider]

I doubt if it was the foam itself that weighed that much, but the water that was in the foam did.

[aqua]

The foam is put in boats to pass the specifications for new boats flotation standards. It is always a 2-part pour in foam. This means they calculate how much the foam will expand too and poor in the amounts of each part to equal the cubic feet required. The boats are suppose to float at the suface of the water when they are loaded to capacity and have on their maximum horsepower. The manufacturers have very little control of where the foam expands, therefore unless they have tubes running in the bildge the drain holes in the bulkheads usually get plugged. I have yet to remove a floor that has had the foam, and it not be saturated with water. I have removed as much as 250lbs. of water soaked foam out of a 17' boat! This water will NEVER dry out!!! I don't recommend putting new foam back in. If you use a good qulity carpet, that usaully helps with the noise.

[Reed]

Originally posted by aqua:
The foam is put in boats to pass the specifications for new boats flotation standards. It is always a 2-part pour in foam. This means they calculate how much the foam will expand too and poor in the amounts of each part to equal the cubic feet required. The boats are suppose to float at the suface of the water when they are loaded to capacity and have on their maximum horsepower. The manufacturers have very little control of where the foam expands, therefore unless they have tubes running in the bildge the drain holes in the bulkheads usually get plugged. I have yet to remove a floor that has had the foam, and it not be saturated with water. I have removed as much as 250lbs. of water soaked foam out of a 17' boat! This water will NEVER dry out!!! I don't recommend putting new foam back in. If you use a good qulity carpet, that usaully helps with the noise. Great info thanks alot, there is foam in the back 2 corners is there any in the nose area of the trimate?

[cooperider]

It depends on the year of the Trimate my '78 did not. But there was foam under the floor in front.

Mine did not have the foam boxes in the rear either.

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[cooperider]

Just a really rotten floor. The transom seemed ok. After seeing all this rot, I set it aside until I can haul the thing to the dump. If you want another hull, bring a trailer and we'll load it up.

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[TRsCheckmate]

My TRV has floatation foam in the bow and rear floor. It does not have the floatation boxes in the back. Coop, If the floor is rotten and transom is ok then why send it to the dump?

[cooperider]

If no one here wants it, and I can't think of some reason to keep it. The it might make it til sometime this summer before I dump it.

[175checkmate]

You have the technology to fix it. How is the deck. Doesn't look any worse than mine was.

[Reed]

Originally posted by cooperider:
Just a really rotten floor. The transom seemed ok. After seeing all this rot, I set it aside until I can haul the thing to the dump. If you want another hull, bring a trailer and we'll load it up. ( I would love another hull where are you located?? I'm in Fort Wayne Indiana http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

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[Reed]

I checked on mapquest it's 130.33 miles from Fort Wayne to Bucyrus ( 2hrs 38 min ) if you want to get rid of the hull let me know and I'll drive over on a Saturday and pick it up, I have ideas in mind already for it Greg http://www.checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/thumb.gif

[cooperider]

Originally posted by 175checkmate:
You have the technology to fix it. How is the deck. Doesn't look any worse than mine was. The deck seems ok other than some nasty paint that may need a sandblaster to get off.

Reed, your welcome to the hull and the deck, see ya Saturday.

[Reed]

I just sent a ( Ruff sketch ) to 175 Checkmate of what I would do with the hull if I got it * I think it's a wild idea *

[175checkmate]

Here ya go.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/checkedout/Trimate20.jpg

[cooperider]

Ok, Reed you and I may have to sit and have lunch when you get here to get the boat. I got some things to show ya.

[175checkmate]

Oh I would have bet that was going to happen. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/thumb.gif
Just do me a favor and wait untill I yest the pad. Would not want you two to get crazy and then the dam thing not work.

[cooperider]

Don't worry gus I have two more Trimate hulls besides that one.

[175checkmate]

Ah, your hording them. I see it all so clear now.
I may have to take a drive down to your place when I head to Mich. Talk boats.

[Reed]

Originally posted by cooperider:
Ok, Reed you and I may have to sit and have lunch when you get here to get the boat. I got some things to show ya. sounds great cooper I'd really enjoy that, I'm starting a boat repair business this year ( Gus ) let me use his trimate on my business card, if you want e-mail me at Greghi65@aol.com http://www.checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/thumb.gif

[Reed]

Originally posted by Reed:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cooperider:
Ok, Reed you and I may have to sit and have lunch when you get here to get the boat. I got some things to show ya. sounds great cooper I'd really enjoy that, I'm starting a boat repair business this year ( Gus ) let me use his trimate on my business card, if you want e-mail me at Greghi65@aol.com http://www.checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/thumb.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Reed]

I have a idea maybe all 3 of us should have lunch we all have great ideas ( speed freaks-r-us) , it's always cool to see everyones ideas ( custom is the wat to go )

[175checkmate]

Definitely. We will have to see if we can work that out. There is nothing like 3 people that can't leave things well enough alone.

[cooperider]

Thats my favorite thing to do, talk boats.

[Reed]

here's a question for Cooper and Gus, Shane ( super genious ) gave me a factory sef of manual trim tabs that have the checkmate symbol on them, ( how much do the hydrolic trim tabs go for used?? ) I have a CMC jackplate and would like to get a gauge and switch for the jackplate do I need a different harness to add the gauge??

[175checkmate]

You should be able to get the harness and gauge from CMC. The CMC hyd plate I bought came with the gauge and harness, It just plugs in.
Have a look at the trim tab's. Is there a a way to adapt a set of trim rams to them? I have a set of trim rams and a trim pump that was used on the homemade jack plate that came with my boat. May work on the tabs.

[Reed]

Originally posted by 175checkmate:
You should be able to get the harness and gauge from CMC. The CMC hyd plate I bought came with the gauge and harness, It just plugs in.
Have a look at the trim tab's. Is there a a way to adapt a set of trim rams to them? I have a set of trim rams and a trim pump that was used on the homemade jack plate that came with my boat. May work on the tabs. Thet CMC was used and cause of budgit I would like to find a used gauge,I sent you a pic of the trim-tabs I got from supergenious ( shane ) how much do you need for the rams and pump??

[175checkmate]

Looks like you could adapt a set of hyd rams to the tabs. You would need to get new hoses. As far as price. Not sure. May have to drag them to MI so you can take a look at the get to gether.

[Reed]

Originally posted by 175checkmate:
Looks like you could adapt a set of hyd rams to the tabs. You would need to get new hoses. As far as price. Not sure. May have to drag them to MI so you can take a look at the get to gether. when is the meet in MI ?? I didn't know about it lol

[cooperider]

That should be one heck of a get together. We're gonna get that little lake nice an choppy.

[175checkmate]

The date is not set yet. I will be in MI during the last week of July thru the 1st week of Aug.

[supergenius74]

hey greg looks like you are really workin on the mate, sorry i haven't been around work is just killin me lately, you better pull that foam out if you want to keep up with me an jeremy!! http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[175checkmate]

Reed sent over some more pictures.
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[175checkmate]

Last one.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/checkedout/reed6.jpg

[Reed]

Originally posted by 175checkmate:
Last one.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/checkedout/reed6.jpg ( Thanks ) I'll get her done by MAY I hope http://www.checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/thumb.gif