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85 Predictor120
08-13-2004, 11:48 PM
hey im looking to buy a 21 enchanter and i found one but it says the transom needs to be strengthen. So what kind of work would have to be done??
85 Predictor120
08-14-2004, 12:10 AM
he said it needs some glass work to tie the transom into the stringers there was only a little triangle that supported it and it broke.
175checkmate
08-14-2004, 12:29 AM
That could be a little work or a major problem. If it came loose then there was water that got in to the wood and rotted it. Not a good thing.
It can be fixed but it will take time and $$.
See the topic trimate overhaul. Thats a bad transom.
cooperider
08-14-2004, 12:31 AM
"Can we fix it? Yes we can?",Bob the builder. http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/bounce.gif
85 Predictor120
08-14-2004, 12:39 AM
oh. well the boat is a 1984 and its been sitting for a year, the guy says its got a 1987 johnson 225 with a nose cone low water pick up, drilled out exhaust, ss 24 pitch prop and a 12" jack plate so do you think the tourqe from the motor could have done the damage?
cooperider
08-14-2004, 12:45 AM
Possibly...Old boat with some rot starting plus big motor. I say it didn't help it any. I'd say unless the price is real good keep shopping there are lots of Enchanters for sale. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
85 Predictor120
08-14-2004, 12:53 AM
well i could get it for a grand maybe less but if not a grand
85 Predictor120
08-14-2004, 12:59 AM
alright say i go and look at this boat... knowing the transom has seen its better days, what kind of things could i do to figure out what kind of fix it is? Or would that have to be a rip the floor up job and see what it looks like? and how if the trasom it self is shot how can i test that?
cooperider
08-14-2004, 01:25 AM
For a grand or less? Motor and Trailer should be worth that. Use a Scratch Awl or an Ice pick to poke around the areas you think might be damaged or rotten. Also poke around areas of the floor near the seats and areas like that looking for soft wood. But for a grand or less. Nice trailer, running motor, hey Free boat.
Also get a rubber mallet and tap all over the transom. You will be listening for spots that sound wrong or just different. If he just broke the transom knees loose then that can be fixed fairly easily.
85 Predictor120
08-14-2004, 10:45 AM
alright thank you, i think i might take a look at this boat now
175checkmate
08-14-2004, 01:05 PM
The damage was more than likly caused by the 12" setback and big omc.
Hook the trailer to something so it does'nt move.
Then trim the engine down abit and try to puchdown and lift the lower unit. Watch for movement in the transom. It may take a 2rd person. But if its soft it will show.
Trailer and motor are worth more than a $1000.
cooperider
08-14-2004, 01:58 PM
I'm be all over it for a thousand. I could use a motor and at least 2 trailers right now. Do like my dad does by the vehicle with the big motor and take it off or out. Put it in the vehicle with the small motor that hasn;t been hurt. He has a 57 Chevy that originally had a six cylinder in it. Sold that on ebay. Then put a 454 in it and tubbed the rear end.
85 Predictor120
08-14-2004, 11:38 PM
ok, do you think that the motor is to big for the boat?? any idea what the 84 is rated for?
cooperider
08-14-2004, 11:51 PM
I just looked through all my brochures and could not find a horsepower listing for the Enchanter. But found them for smaller boats. So that motor should be fine for the boat.
F150GT
08-15-2004, 09:10 AM
I think mine is rated for 225HP. A 200 set up correctly is a good match, you should be able to 70+ out of it.
F150GT
F150GT
08-15-2004, 09:13 AM
oops I just looked back on the tread and see you are looking at a 225HP, That should not exceede the rating and will do a nice job on her. If the engine runs, go for it.
85 Predictor120
08-15-2004, 12:41 PM
alright guys thanks.. i talked to the kid again trying to get some more info on this boat.. knowing its got a 225 and such a big jack plate that whats did the damage, he said that you can see the support that broke if you lift the back seat up. all the seats are in poor condition needing reulpostering, the boat has a canvas but i dont know how good of cond. it is in and its also needs new gaugues. and the boat does not have a trailer... http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/jpshakehead.gif im not sure if this boat is worth it, his asking price is $1000 but if he would come down on his price then i dunno ill see if i can post the pics so what do you guys think is this boat even worth a grand??
85 Predictor120
08-15-2004, 12:45 PM
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85 Predictor120
08-15-2004, 12:47 PM
AND THIS IS WHAT I JUST SOLD, MY PREDICTOR... WISH IT WAS STILL MINE
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85 Predictor120
08-15-2004, 01:10 PM
im just worried that if im crusin down the CT river and i jump a wave that transom is gonna break off and ploop there goes my motor and boat right to the bottom http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
merc245
08-15-2004, 03:28 PM
I THINK YOUR MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT ELSE WHERE. HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO COMMIT. I BELEIVE THIS ONE HAS NO END TO THE COMMIT IF YOU MAKE IT. I THINK YOU WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IF YOU MAKE A LARGER INVESTMENT TO START.
Brian
08-15-2004, 03:30 PM
85 Predictor120 My 84' enchanter is rated for 235 hp. With a good transom she'll handle all of that. There should be some flex but very little. You might think of doing something like F150gt did to his.Good luck. http://checkmate-boats.com/6/ws/,s,8626072361/Graemlins/thumb.gif
Brian
play2win
08-15-2004, 03:41 PM
Brian, my 82' Enchanter is rated for 215hp, its funny how it changes over only a couple of years. Predictor, it you are handy and enjoy doing work on boats, I would say to spend the $800-$1000 and buy it. There are alot of great people on this web-site that can guide you through the restoration process. It is VERY time consuming though. I started my resto in December, and am just finishing up now. I have registered.....wait let me check my dorky Checkmate log.... 472 hours so far for this complete rebuild. Usually, there are really never any easy transom fixes. Once that is shot, now you are most likely looking at a new floor, foam, and stringers as well. just my two cents. good luck
85 Predictor120
08-15-2004, 09:39 PM
alright well thank you all, im gonna have to back outta this one.. theres other boats out there.
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