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77trimate4
06-11-2006, 12:53 AM
I found a small soft spot in the floor of my 77 Trimate IV, its right behind the drivers "seat box" in the corner where the floor meets the "hump" of the hull. (not sure how else to explain it, the guys framiliar with the trimates should know where I mean) The area is the corner of the floor, approx 2" square area. Since its in a place noone will step, am I hurting anything or causing problems by not doing anything about it. I just had new carpet put in with the interior and I'd rather not cut into it.

Derek

JUPITER PULSARE
06-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Do not hesitate fixing the soft spot. Wood rot is a live organism that will continue to spread. Ya have to cut out the cancer!!! If it's just a small spot it should be an easy fix. Cut out the area. Once the hole is cut, glass in a perimeter to the underside of the floor so your new piece of floor will have something to rest on. Cut a piece of marine ply to fit the area, glass on both sides, set the piece on the glassed in perimeter with a bonding material like plexus, and glass over the entire area!

TRsCheckmate
06-12-2006, 12:50 PM
I had the same problem on my 74 TRV-17. Soft spot was in the V below the floor right near the seat boxes and not in the hump. I am fairly sure that the hump area is not actual floor but is part of the hull, which would mean that the balsa core is soft/rotted.


Here is a link to my overhaul thread:http://checkmate-boats.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3343


Also Coop posted great instructions for replacing balsa core I pasted them in my thread but to save you time here they are

originally posted by Cooperider:

Ok, here is how you fix bad balsa.

1. Figure out how big of an area needs repaired, and draw a mark a few inches beyond that.

2. Use some sort of cut of wheel that you can set how deep you are cutting. I have used a circular saw for this, till I found better tools. It works great. Set your depth at about 1/4inch or less, and cut around the area you have marked.

3. Use something to pry up under the edge of the glass. The only thing holding the glass down would be the good balsa that is still there. The rotten basla should give way quite nicely.

4. Set the piece you cut out aside to use as a pattern for new glass. Make your new pieces, make at least one piece the same size and the rest a few inches bigger. Use either heavy roving or biaxial cloth.

5. Use a wide wood chisel and a hammer to chip away all the balsa that is exposed. Try to get as much out as you can before you break out the grinders. Its rotten, it should come out easy.
Go to someplace like www.fiberglast.com (http://www.fiberglast.com/) and order some new balsa. If you cant find any locally.

6. Use a sander or a grinder to clean up the inner skin.

7. Cut 2 pieces of 1-1/2 ounce fiberglass mat. The same size as your repair area.

8. Have your glass and balsa precut, then use your brush and wet out the repair area with resin. Then lay one of the pieces of 1-1/2 ounce mat on some cardboard and wet it down with resin, then take it and place it down in your repair area, and bruch out an LARGE air bubbles. Don't worry about any small ones they don't matter for what you are doing.

9. Take your precut balsa and brush resin on the side that does not have the fabric holding it together, then quickly place it in the repair area over the still wet glass mat that you just placed in there. Use your hands to press it in as best as you can. After you get it inplace. Take some wax paper and cover the entire repair, then cover that with cardboard. Place any kind of weight you can find on top of the card board. Books, magazines, newspapers, anything.

10. Now walk away for at least 2 hours. Have lunch, drink a wobblypop, whatever, just leave it alone for at least 2 hours.

11. Now remove the weights, the cardboard, and the wax paper should have kept the cardboard from sticking, you are ready to continue.

12. Use a filler like duraglass to fill in around the repair area, there will be some gaps between the old area and the new area. Fill these areas flush with the level of the new balsa, don't fill them to the level of the old glass layer. Let this set up. Then sand smooth if needed.

13. Brush a layer of resin onto the new balsa over lapping onto the old glass. Wet the other piece of 1-1/2 ounce mat on the cardboard again, then place the mat onto the repaired area. Brush out the LARGE air bubbles ONLY right now. Take the piece of biaxial glass or roving, that is the same size as the repair and wet it out on the cardboard. Then place it on top of the still very wet mat. Use a plastic or rubber squeege to work all the air bubbles to the sides and out. Do this as good as you can.

14. Take the last piece of biaxial or roving and wet it out on the cardboard, the place it over the still wet glass you just laid down.
Use a squeege to work all the air bubbles to the sides and out. Keep working at it until all the air is gone or the resin starts to set up.

15. Drink another wobblypop, cause you just fixed your boat. http://checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/surf.gif http://checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/surf.gif http://checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/surf.gif


Hope this helps
-TR

77trimate4
06-12-2006, 09:06 PM
sorry didn't explain very well, its in the floor, in the corner where the floor meets the seat box, hump is very solid (hurt my hand beating on it and listening)

I think I'm going to wait untill winter to do anything, since boating season around here is over about labor day. am I hurting anything by waiting untill then?

I dont really want to not be able to use it over the rest of the summer. I may take it somewhere and let a shop do the floor replacement, how much could I be looking at to pay to have this done?

Derek

TRsCheckmate
06-13-2006, 12:20 PM
Sorry I missunderstood. I thought you were speaking of the hump on the outside of the boxes towardes the sides of the boat.

If it is just the floor I would wait until boating season is over and then replace it.

I have no idea what the labor for a new floor would cost. Putting in a new floor yourself is not hard but is very time consuming.

Someone else in here should be able to answer your question.

good luck
-TR