HemiBee's Rare 28' Outboard Convincor

[Chris]

Here is a very rare boat. I'll let HemiBee fill in the details. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[Chris]

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[175checkmate]

WOW, what a boat!!!!!
How's that monster run and what are the details.

[Brian]

Awsome boat :surf:, very nice, Yeah what are the details?

[illMATTic]

I would have to say I am a fan. that boat is the whip.

[JW]

WOW! Very nice!

[HemiBee]

Thanks guys...It's a blast...

I've had the boat for about a year. Run it on the Chesapeake Bay. Takes the rough water pretty well. It has twin 2.4, 200hp's w/ nose cones and low water pick-ups, Gil brackets and 14.5 x 28 labbed props. Runs 72 (gps) w/low fuel and 2-people. Runs 68-69 full of gas and 4. Had a soft spot in the floor and needed a new gas tank so I have it torn apart. The last 18" of the stringers were mush :shakehead: . Cut new stringers , knee braces and sub-floor today. The gas tank is supposed to be ready this week.

The boats history is not real clear. Here's what I know. It was rigged w/tripples by a place in Florida and raced for awhile. Second owner put the brackets on and 260EFI's. A buddy of mine bought it 3-years ago. It ran 83 (radar)w/the 260's. (I have one 260 drop on and looking for another....anyone have one they want to get rid of????)

Doing some updating while I have it apart. Brackets are being powdercoated, new upholstery (that black burns my arse!!!!) and new carpet.

Thanks again for the kind words http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bruce]

B E A Utifull, very very nice, Great Graphics !!

[INXS]

Sharp Boat!

INXS

[Kip Combs]

Great looking boat! .....It is a rare bird too.....didn't make a bunch of those! Very impressive! :thumb:

[HemiBee]

Thanks Kip. Have not been able to find out much about them....Any idea how many were made and what years they were made? Mike thought he remembered the factory raced one?

[Kip Combs]

Yea.....one was raced from the factory here(Ashland Express-the boss himself raced it) and (Ocean Outboard-the dealer) raced one for years. As far as i can tell we only sold about 10 of them from 83 to sometime in the late 80's. The accual model name was 2800 SX O/B.Most of our offshore bottoms were based off this boat and the original Convincor 25' model !

[Kip Combs]

.....forgot to mention i found one originally sold to Sundance Marine in Florida. That's most likely the one you have! :thumb:

[HemiBee]

Thanks for the info. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Chris]

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[Chris]

Here are some pictures detailing the restoration Woody did. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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[Eriktheviking]

Hey HemiBee,
How about that,Your boat is rarer than your Superbee! http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Looks great.Certainly worth hanging on to.Has to be a blast to mash those thottles down! :bigthumb:

[HemiBee]

Yeah...Makes it as rare as a '71 Hemi 'Cuda Convertible....now, if it was only worth as much :bigthumb: ....but the fun factor makes up for it!!!

[175checkmate]

Great job on the glass work. Boat is nice, very nice. Cool to find out how rare it is. The engine stands are awsome. Did you build them? Where does the engine mount?

[HemiBee]

Thanks, actually I'm still glassing. This is work in progress. The engine stands are patterned after Mercury Factory stands. A bolt through the stand and into the trim tab hole holds everything in place. I've had 40hp - 200 Mercury's and 225 Johnsons on them. Real versatle. If you're interested I'll work up a price and get it made for you. They are incredibly stable too.

[175checkmate]

Hemi, that would be great. Might be able to get the engine off the work bench. Let me know the details.

[HemiBee]

Got with my fabricator. Cost is $125.00 + Shipping
That's the one-up price. If a bunch of you want them we can probably get a price break around Qty 10. For that price they will be powdercoated and have protective material on the cavitation plate support. FYI, this stand is mainly for storage. I have used them while removing powerheads but you would not want to torgue on it too much. May get wobbly http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif A little more $ than I thought it would be but takes several hours to cut and weld. Any Interest???

[175checkmate]

Very interested, can you shoot a picture of where the stand mounts to the lower unit.

[HemiBee]

Just sent to your e-mail....

[175checkmate]

Sent ya an email. Looks great.

[F150GT]

VERY Nice shop to work in, looks like the project is going nicley.

[jrumon]

Very nice looking boat...scray to find ant rot large or small, but it happens and it's fixable...looks like you guy's are getting it handled fine. It's a shame people don't take the time to seal up holes when they attach hardware (or worse when they don't seal it up when they remove it)...an once of prevention is worth it's weight in gold!!! http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

P.S. I like your motor stands but be careful!!! I had a buddy using something similar (a modified lower unit work stand). It had two channels that the outer cav plate rested on and also bolted through the tim tab hole to secure the stand. For whatever reason, the cav plate actually broke and sent the whole thing crashing to the ground one night....just a word of caution... http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Good luck with that boat...I love outboards!!! Jim. :thumb:

[HemiBee]

Thanks for the warning. Must have been a cracked or weak lower unit. The legs on these extend the length of the cavitation plate so the load is down ward with minimal moment force on the bolt. Goes to show you anything can happen :sick:

[HemiBee]

Chris, I like your new avitar.http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Time to get back to work!! Been layed up for 8-weeks recovering from knee surgery.

Just picked up a pair of 2.5 260 hp EFI offshores. Got a new gas tank made and anxious to see how these motors perform. Shooting for low to mid 80's...

[senator-holland]

Originally posted by Kip Combs:
.....forgot to mention i found one originally sold to Sundance Marine in Florida. That's most likely the one you have! :thumb:

i ripped the decals of sundance marine off my senator yesterday...

did they export to europe?

[senator-holland]

now i know who sold my senator to the german guy...

[senator-holland]

here are some details from internet, they are still selling:

SunDance Marine
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Company Description:
What started as a small outboard service shop has matured into a multi-location, full service marine dealership offering new and preowned boat sales, outboard sales, service repairs and dry storage.


Major Products/Services:
Sales: Silverton, Regal, Fountain & Wellcraft, Mercury engines.
Repairs: Mercury, Mercruiser Yamaha, Johnson, Volvo.


Mission Statement:
Our customers are the most important visitors in our marina. They are not outsiders in our business, they are a part of it. We are not doing a favor by serving them. They are doing us a favor by giving us the opportunity to do so. We are totally dependent on them. They are our most important asset!


Benefits:
We are always interested in meeting good people ... people who are dedicated to offering superior assistance in sales, service and repairs are encouraged to contact us.


For more information, please contact:

Patty Jones
SunDance Marine
1335 SE 16th Street
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316

Phone: 954-522-2800
Fax: 954-524-1841

[senator-holland]

website:

sundance marine (http://www.sundancemarineusa.com/)

[HemiBee]

Hey Chris,

I e-mailed you some recent photos of my progress. The new stringers and kneebraces are in. Brackets and motors are hung. This past weekend I put the new gas tank in, foamed it and got the floor down with one coat of glass. Should have the floor done by this weekend and then I can plumb and wire the new motors.


Thanks, Woody

[Chris]

Here are the progress pics Woody sent me.

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[JUPITER PULSARE]

NICE BOAT!! I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THAT PUPPY FOR A WALK WHEN IT IS DONE!!! :thumb:

[jgreen]

Great looking boat, and the repair work looks fantastic! http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Eriktheviking]

Yes,Nice work,Its a labor of love :thumb: I'd still like to see a Pic of that Super Bee.

[175checkmate]

That boat ROCKS. Nice glass work.

[DONCONVINCER]

Sweet boat... Looks like it's almost ready.. Great looking glass work

[HemiBee]

Thanks for the compliments http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Makes all those late nights pass a little easier. It is a labor of love (and frustration) but I can see the light now.
I took my time and tried not to cut any corners.
These projects always take longer than expected but I'll be on the water by Labor Day. :thumb:

Eric, I'll round up a picture for you....maybe we should start a "OTHER TOYS" thread....

[Leedo Lanes]

I like the thought of that"Other Toys" thread...I am sure pretty much everyone on this site is as much into cars as boats. I know I certainly am.

[merc245]

heck, if i had a shop like that i would be happy to take a season off and rework the starflite and bring her back to cherry condition. that also includes the trailer. the only thing missing is a fridge in the corner stocked with ice cold "molson golden"

[HemiBee]

there is a fridge, you just can't see it from this angle and.....there is golden beverage flowing, just not Molson, sorry :cheers

[Leedo Lanes]

Yeah, what shop is complete without a beer fridge, or in my case a coke machine stocked with a capacity 240 cans of beer. Keeps em nice and kewl

[Chris]

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[HemiBee]

Finally, motors are on and running. took it out for a quickie last Sunday. Motors run great but the trim tabs were not working. Fixed those and I'm headed to the river for a long Labor Day weekend. Might get cut short 'cause of the hurricane but at least I'll get a couple days in.

Huge difference over the 200's. Could not run them up much because the porposing was so bad. Hit 50 mph @ 4K, got 3200 to 3500 rpm left. YeeHaa The Offshore exhast sounds awsome too...

I'll be back Monday if the storm does not send me packing sooner...Lates
:thumb:

[jgreen]

I hope the storm doesn't hit too hard over there, :irked: wasn't it just earlier this week,or the end of last week you guys got nailed with LOTS of rain?

[HemiBee]

Just got back in town....another lousy (weather) weekend.

Pulse185..."hammered" is an understatement. 3-rooms flooded in my basement. spend 2-days ripping out the carpet and drying things out. Lots had it worse than me. Forced me to do a long needed cleanout.

Ran the boat Thursday and Friday this past week. Took it easy for 3+ hours seating the rings and checking things out. Still a few bugs to work out. The difference with the 260's is really impressive.

Getting some surging under hard acceleration above 4000. Seeing it on both engines so I'm checking out the fuel delivery first. Batteries and charging next...Anybody have any other suggestions????

[HemiBee]

Finally some decent weather and calm water!!!
Got the charging problem fixed. New batteries were weak and the ECU's were cutting out above 4500 rpm. Running great now.

Experiencig bad chinewalking around 68 mph. Never had this before. Have run boat with CLE's and lowers with Bob's nosecones and never had this problem. Motor height is the same (1-1/2 below transom) and 24" setback. Same props (14-1/2 x 28 labbed 3- blade choppers). New motors have sportmasters. Having to run alot of tab to keep the nose down and eliminate porpoising. Saw 72 mph @ 6000 (GPS) but the chinewalking got really bad.

Thinking about trying some 4-blades....Any thoughts.

[JUPITER PULSARE]

HEMIBEE, I BELIEVE FOUR BLADES WILL GIVE YOU EVEN MORE BOW LIFT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR HAVING TROUBLE KEEPING THE BOW DOWN. I THINK THAT YOU MAY NEED TO EXPERIMENT WITH YOUR MOTOR HEIGHTS BEING THAT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LOWER UNITS THAN BEFORE.

[miller time]

cool boat!were on the chesapeak do you run your boat?i have a 95 253 convicor and i run on the chesapeak between baltimore,annapolis and kent island. :thumb:

[HemiBee]

Thanks gmiller... Welcome to the board.
I have a place on the Little Wicomico River at Smith Point. Right where the Potomac meets the Chesapeake Bay. I boat mostly in that area but make it up to Solomons a couple times a year and go to Crisfield fairly regular.

Hope to make it to your area next summer. If you're ever down my way let me know.....

[miller time]

i will let you know if i make it down your way and you do the same if you make it up this way if you do you have to check out RED EYEY'S dock bar.
do you have any pics of your cabin?how can i get some of my pics on the site and whats the deal with the karma thing on this site?

[DONCONVINCER]

HemiBee and gmiller699.. You guys run in the bay.. The last few times I was in the bay area I was not to happy. Most reciently I was on the Patapsco out from Rivera Beach the water was to rough. Before that I was on the South River and The Severn, they are to conjested with rentals and non drivers I did'nt feel safe.
I like "my river". I go on the Patuxent up north of Benidect. The pic's I posted in "IN THE WATER AT LAST" show how the water is all day any day.

[miller time]

donconvincer
your right the patapsco can be very rough.there is allways a lot of ship and pleasure boat traffic.but i dont have much choice i keep my boat on stoney creek during the summer.its been a long time since i was on south river.i used to go water skiing before work when i worked at the dealership in annapolis.the only time i ever get close to the severn is when we go to annapolis harbor. :thumb:I like boating in my area because i have two realy cool islands to hang out at twenty minutes away in either direction(hart miller is.balt and dobbins is. on the magothy river.we are also close to rock hall and kent island.i live a couple of miles from river beach do you have family or friends there?BY THE WAY IS ANY ONE GOING TO THE BIG IN WATER ANNAPOLIS BOAT SHOW NEXT MONTH?

[miller time]

SORRY ABOUT THE RED TEXT DID NOT MEAN TO DO THAT. :brickwall:

[DONCONVINCER]

Years ago I use to Ski on the Rhode River (UNTILL ABOUT 82). My Grandmother lives there and my uncle lives next door. I stopped going there on a regular basis because the good ramp closed to the public and the ramp on Cadle Creek is realy bad and there nettles after mid July. The Patuxent is brackish but up north it's pretty fresh. The Patuxent also has very little traffic so its GREAT FOR SKIING

[HemiBee]

Don, we definitely have to pick our days when we can venture out of the river and into the bay. But on calm days it's hard to beat...We too have an awsome island right at the mouth of my river with about 2-1/2 miles of sandy beach. Deep water right up to shore to anchor and hang out.

When I come out of my river and go left I'm in Maryland waters...straight or right I'm in Virginia ...awsome fishing where the Potomac meets the bay and I get to fish both states seasons. That is when I'm not blazing in the Checkmate :thumb:

[jgreen]

HemiBee:
What kind of boating can you find in the Roanoke area?
My wife has a possibility of a transfer to there, what is the weather like in the area from nov.- april?
Any info would be helpful.

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[HemiBee]

Hey Pulse, Roanoke is about 3-hours from Richmond....Not real familiar with that area but I think Smith Mountain Lake is near there. Never been but heard it's really a nice lake and lots of hot boats. I have a place on the Chesapeake Bay so I go in the opposite direction. Plan on going up there sometime though.

Roanoke is in the mountains so it can be cold. I don't think it's too severe there. All the Northern guys on here would probably think it's summer....

Good luck with the move, hope it works out for you.

[jgreen]

Anything above freezing would be great, up here in the great white north, -25 is not unusual.

[DONCONVINCER]

HEMIBEE,
Getting togather down at Solomans might be do-able. It might be to late in the season to plan it for this year. Next weekend (10/02)I ?might? be out but then the next weekend I have free is Nov.6th. I've been out as late as Thanksgiving but thats usualy the weekend I winterize and wait for April.

pulse,
This time of year it might be real warm during the day but when that sun goes down burr...
I like June when it stays light untill after 9:00pm, getting dark at 7:00 sucks.. Winters here rarely get below the teens above and thats only a few days late Dec through early Feb. When it snows its usualy gone in a few days. It's warm enough to get get out the first time mid April and go skiing early May.

[DONCONVINCER]

HEMIBEE,
Are you in Richmond City or Richmond County ?

[HemiBee]

Richmond, City but have a place at Smith Point in the Northern Neck....Northumberland County

Spring is a great time to do Solomons. The weekend the Tiki Bar opens is always a blast but also a Zoo.
Might be good to plan a get together. Several marinas w/hotels....

Pulse, you won't see -25 in Roanoke. Thank God!!!

[HemiBee]

'bout time we have an East Cost Checkmate Rendevous http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[miller time]

http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gifhey don just wanted let you know you are right winter does suck!!!!! i can run my boat or drive my hot rod!

[miller time]

i ment to say i CANT run my boat or hot rod :shakehead:

[miller time]

a east coast checkmate rendevous sounds great.
buy the way the offshore power boat races are this weekend in cambridge md.

[DONCONVINCER]

I'll have to miss the race. I'll be in Ocean City at my Dad's. If I do get on a boat this weekend it'll be my Dad's toon.
Those races are cool if you can get into the pits. The race is usualy hard to watch but the hardware in the pits will make you drool. If it's warm enough the "software" will be looking good too :eyecrazy: :devil:

[miller time]

well have fun in oc, i will be there in october for the street rod run "endless summer" cruise

[HemiBee]

Here are a couple shots from this weekend in the Chesapeake Bay....
beach (http://www.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/3/600/450.jpg)

[HemiBee]

I'll try again :brickwall:

[JUPITER PULSARE]

BOAT LOOKS GREAT HEMIBEE; BY THE WAY, I'M AN OLD MOPAR MANIAC ALSO. MOPARS ONCE OWNED, 1973 DODGE CHALLANGER 340, 1974 DODGE CHARGER SE WITH A 440, 1973 2 DOOR DUSTER/318/PISTAL GRIP 4 SPD, 1970 CHRYSLER 300 H(HURST)/440.

[HemiBee]

Thanks Jupiter, Still lots to do but it's in the water and getting dialed in. :surf:

Got some more pictures to post when if I figure out this picture posting sight...

That's cool about the Mopars. I currently have a '70 440-6 'Cuda 4-sp w/Shaker and a '69 Hemi SuperBee. Had a '70 440-6 4-sp Roadrunner in High School, the local heat loved me.....

[HemiBee]

A little far away, but...74.9 (http://www3.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/4/600/450.jpg)

[HemiBee]

bow shot (http://www3.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/5/600/450.jpg)

[HemiBee]

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[DONCONVINCER]

That thing realy gets up and out of the water... Looking real good...

[JUPITER PULSARE]

HEMIBEE, IF THAT SUPER-BEE IS A MATCHING VIN # CAR YOU ARE SITTING ON SOME EXPENSIVE IRON!! :bounce: I ALSO LOVE THE SHAKER HOODS ON THE CUDAS/CHALLANGERS. THERE IS AN ORIGINAL 383 SUPER BEE (NO ENGINE/DRIVETRAIN) SITTING IN A GUYS SIDE YARD IN JUPITER FARMS, FL RUSTING AWAY. EVERYTIME I PASS THE CAR IT GETS ME THINKING....BUT I DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PLAY WITH MY CHECKMATE LET ALONE REBUILDING A CLASSIC MUSCLE CAR!! :shakehead:

[HemiBee]

Both are matching numbers....S'bee has 28,000 miles. I like to think of them as my retirement suplement. Bought the 'Cuda in '83 and the SuperBee in '94. (When they were almost resonable) :bigthumb:

[JUPITER PULSARE]

HEMIBEE, I'D SWAP YA A PULSARE FOR THAT 440 6 PAK CUDA/SHAKER HOOD!!! L.O.L. IN 1977 I PASSED UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY A WRECKED 1970 440 CUDA CONVERTIBLE/SHAKER HOOD (JUST NEEDED LEFT REAR QUARTER REPLACED AND FRONT LEFT FENDER, NO MOTOR, BUT CAR WAS A REAL VIN # RT AND INTACT. I'M STILL KICKING MYSELF. :brickwall: MY 1974 "SMOG" CHARGER SE/440 STILL RAN LIKE A RAPED APE. WHEN THE SECONDARIES ON THE CARTER THERMOQUAD OPENED UP AND THE 727 DROPPED TO PASSING GEAR, ALL HELL WOULD BREAK LOOSE!! THERE WAS NO OTHER CAR THAT SOUNDED THAT COOL WITH THE FACTORY DUAL EXHAUST AND RESONATORS! http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif:bounce: RUNNING AROUND IN MY PULSARE NOW GIVES ME THE SAME KIND OF THRILLS I ENJOYED DRIVING MUSCLE CARS THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL!! (MANY YEARS AGO)

[DONCONVINCER]

We should open a thread for muscle cars owned in 'ON THE DOCK'
It would be intresting to see how many fast boat owners had or have fast cars
If I were a MOPAR man HEMIBEE has 2 cars I would love to own
I never owned any MOPARS but I had a couple of fast Pontiacs, 68 Firebird that I put a 455 in (10.20's), and a 70 LeMans (Same as a GTO with a chrome front bumper) with a 455.

[HemiBee]

Don, good idear. We talked before about starting an "Other Toys" thread but it never happend. I posted a couple pictures on the thread you started.. Don't have any good ones of the S'Bee (digital) I'll have to scan some....

[HemiBee]

Jupiter, all the MOPAR stuff is insane right now.
Any convertible body you come across, jump on it!
I'll have to get back to you on the Pulsare trade :lol:

[JUPITER PULSARE]

THIS IS STARTING TO SOUND LIKE A MUSCLE CAR WEBSITE; WE MAY HAVE TO SWITCH OVER TO THE MOPAR SITE!! :lol: MUSCLE CARS/MUSCLE BOATS, IT'S ALL GOOD!!

[HemiBee]

Here's a couple pier shots from this past weekend. http://www.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/7/600/450.jpg
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[Chris]

Hemibee,

Your boat is one of my all time favs. It's just so awesome. :thumb:

[HemiBee]

Thanks Chris. That means a lot coming from "DA MAN". It's great to have a place to share, learn and oogle the other "Mates"... http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JUPITER PULSARE]

THAT'S ONE BAD-ASS LOOKING MATE!! :thumb: DEFINITLY HAS THE "MUSCLE BOAT" LOOK!!

[jkeiper]

Yep!! I have to agree, that is one great looking Checkmate. I love the way it sits in the water. Hang on to that bad boy!

Jim

P.S. Are there any action shots?

[Instigator]

All I can say is.....WOW!!
I want one http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Gary

[John B]

HemiBee

Very Nice Boat!! Best of luck with it. :thumb:

John

[Festis]

Very Nice Boat!!
I have a 1995 CHECKMATE CONVINCOR 303 with twin 502s. I live in Cornwall Ont and will be going up to the poker run in Gan next year. hope to see you there.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/varley/

[HemiBee]

New Years Day and 72 degrees in Richmond....Took the boat out for a little ride. Awesome way to start the New Year. Hope everyone else had as good a day..... Stay tuned for a few pictures :thumb:

[Bruce]

Hi HemiBee, the only place it's 72 degreee's up here is in the Kitchen !!. For now, we have to "live" through you folks who are fortunate enough to have boating weather the entire Year.

The Toronto Boat Show is coming up in another couple of weeks so we're getting closer.

Take Care

Bruce

[HemiBee]

Here's what I did on New Years Day...
(Let's see if I can remember how to do this..)
at the ramphttp://www.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/15/600/400.jpg
coming..http://www.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/13/600/400.jpg
and goinghttp://www.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/14/600/400.jpg

[HemiBee]

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[HemiBee]

and back on the trailer until the next 72 degree day http://www.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/17/600/400.

[Black Pulse]

Oh yes, now that is a classic!!! Love that design and glad to see you have kept it in mint condition, as far as these peepers can tell...what a beauty, I bet you will be hanging onto that classic for a while!!!

Black Pulse

p.s. I haven't been to the TO boat show in a few years but plan on going this year. Will there be Checkmates represented? Anyone know?

[HemiBee]

Thanks B.P. Still a lot to do but it's getting there.
http://www.freepichosting.com/Thumbs/421554052/17/600/400.jpg

[Bruce]

Hi BP, with respect to the Toronto Boat Show, there hasn't been any for a couple of years now, Pride of Muskoka used to bring a few but since they are not involved with Checkmates anymore that has dried up.

One never knows, I believe we have 2 dealers now in the province, one for sure is Lake and Trail and I thought I heard one of the dealers towards the Muskoka's were beginning as well.

I just doubled back into one of the other message areas. The other dealer was New Ark Marina, I just looked at the web site for the boatshow and New Ark is listed as one of the exhibitor's, I'll shoot them an e-mail and see what's up.

As discussed many times before here on the board, it's very very expensive to show up at the boat show, huge overhead, one would have to really really sell a lot of boats to make it worth while.

Still worth going to "poke' around though, lots to see !!!


Bruce

[jkeiper]

HemiBee;

That Mate of yours is the coolest one I've ever seen. I love the black twins on the back too. Looks like you had perfect conditions to open her up too. http://www.checkmate-boats.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif :bounce:

Jim

[HemiBee]

Thanks Jim, It was a really nice day... I always try to take a boat ride on New Years Day. I've been lucky the last 7-years to have had decent enough weather. Got to keep the tradition alive.

Another 68 degree day today. And.....RAIN,RAIN, RAIN on Saturday! Oh well, Spring will be here soon enough.

Sounds like you guys are getting pounded in the Mid-West.....Stay warm

[mistertoadie]

spring NEVER comes soon enough for me.

[D BABZ]

finally found a picture and a little info on another 2800 sx o/b. Just bought one last month, has twin 2.4 bridgeports with 26pt props and 26in gil brackets. I am having alot of trouble getting out of the hole and alot of cavatation. I read that you were having similar problems with yours. I was wondering if you have had any luck solving these problems and have any suggestions. Thanks, Devin

[HemiBee]

Devin,

Congrats on the new purchase and welcome to the board.

I've never had a problem with cavitation or getting out of the hole. I repowered this past summer with twin 2.5, 260's. Old motors were 2.4, 200's with Bob's nosecones. New motors have Sportmasters and I have a lot of chinewalking @ 75mph+. Going to try the old lowers as soon as the weather warms up.
Check the height of your motors and make sure the centerline of the prop shaft is at or below the pad. I've run mine from 1-1/2" below to 2" above without any cavitation problems. The 26's should be OK too. I run 26's and 28's w/o any problems.
make sure you tuck the motors in all the way when you gag it...

Keep us posted on your progress and how about pictures and some more details...

[miller time]

hey hemi bee hows it going? a friend of mine had an 89 253 convincor w/454 we installed a 502 that we did for it and it chim walked bad at 70ish we never did get it to stop.

[miller time]

Originally posted by gmiller699:
hey hemi bee hows it going? a friend of mine had an 89 253 convincor w/454 we installed a 502 that we did for it and it chim walked bad at 70ish we never did get it to stop.
does yours chim walk?

[Chris]

I gather your buddy tried trim-tabs?

[HemiBee]

Originally posted by gmiller699:hey hemi bee hows it going? a friend of mine had an 89 253 convincor w/454 we installed a 502 that we did for it and it chim walked bad at 70ish we never did get it to stop. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
does yours chim walk?

Hey gmiller, It chinewalks bad with the sportmasters...Still need to try the old lowers. Just waiting for warm weather!!!

[miller time]

chris, the boat had factory tabs on it but i thought they were to short and i kept trying to get him to buy longer tabs but he was out of money.guess thats why he got rid of it.

[Big Dave]

The only way we could get Daren34's diplomat outboard to stop chinewalking was to raise it up to the moon. Had to put a hyd jack plate on it to get over 55mph (we had just upgraded to the then new 2.0l johnnyrude 140 loop charged engine.)After the jack plate it would turn 6300 rpm w/ a 22 raker and 6800 rpm w/ a 20 raker.

[Instigator]

HemiBee, on the chine walking, here's a stupid question.
You ever heard of the "steering chop"?
It's what us O/B guys have learned to do to combat chine walk in some boats at speed.
It very's from boat to boat but basically goes like this.
When the boat starts to drop and roll left, correct with just a bit of right wheel. When it starts/trys to roll right, steer left. You have to be able to feel the boat in the seat of your pants to do it well.
My 24' Sonic twin O/B does it from time to time but if I "drive it" I can always stop/control the chine walking.
I learned this when I had a 21' Laser O/B that I could'nt get over 55/60 even though I knew it was a 80 MPH boat.
I took it to the dealer I got it from (he's on the water) and told him my probelm. He laughed at me, then we went for a ride w/o him saying a word.
He held his foot on the floor from one end of the lake to the other w/o letting off! Was the 1st time the boat ran 80 since I ownded it and this was in rush hour Sunday afternoon traffic!
Anyhow, I have had several fast O/B's since then that I had to drive the same way.
I think I told you before that the SportMasters are designed for surfacing applications such as tunnels but I can't see them causing your boat to chine walk. What I've seen is they're just 2-3 MPH's slower than the fish gear cases even though they are orgasmic to look at!!!
When a boat chine walks what it is usually doing is falling off the pad. Steering chop is combatting this to keep it up and on the pad.
I had a 17' HydroStream that would do this so bad you couldn't drive it. (they were notorious for this) It required steering chop but when I intially tried it I made it worse to the point that it tried to spit me over the side.
I dumped out my pasenger, put on my race vest, hooked up the kil tether and said "it's either me or the boat".
Ended up that I was way over correcting and agrivating it. I was dooing what my old boats liked and it was WAY TOO much for this paticular hull.
Once I figured this out, I had that boat to 101 GPS.
Try it and see how you do???

[HemiBee]

Hey Instigator, Yep, been there and done that. Thanks for asking. The boat used to have 2.4 260's with CLE's and ran stable @ 82-83 mph.

Somethings out of wack and it just needs to warm up (and stay warm) to start playing with the set-up again.

I'll keep you posted....

[Mooneys]

HemiBee, gmiller699, DONCONVINCER, and anyone else near the Bay,

Did you ever get together on the bay? I saw some talk back in 2004 about a get together, did you ever do it? I boat in the Northern Bay area and in Rehoboth and Ocean City bays&gt; I was hoping ot get some of us east coast folks together before the end of the season on the Bay or over at the beach in MD or DE?.

I know there's a few of us from the MD, PA, NJ areas that could make a last minute trip, anyone interested?

Anyone think we could pull it off?

[HemiBee]

Dang, was doing a little purusing and noticed a bunch of pictures are gone. WASSUP? http://checkmate-boats.com/graemlins/brickwall.gif Guess I'll have to check the links. Anyone else had this problem?

[miller time]

yep happened to my first thread i tallked to chris and i had to start a new one.

[HemiBee]

The 28 might be on the market this summer. Just put a contract in on 2002 Cigarette Top Gun w/575's. Waiting on surveys and all that stuff.

Post all inquiries and references here. If she goes it has to be to the right enthusiast.

Here's your chance Chris.

[illMATTic]

lets see some more fotos of this thing. any water shots?

[Chris]

The 28 might be on the market this summer. Just put a contract in on 2002 Cigarette Top Gun w/575's. Waiting on surveys and all that stuff.

Post all inquiries and references here. If she goes it has to be to the right enthusiast.

Here's your chance Chris.I only wish brotha. :)

[HemiBee]

Hey Instigator, Yep, been there and done that. Thanks for asking. The boat used to have 2.4 260's with CLE's and ran stable @ 82-83 mph.

Somethings out of wack and it just needs to warm up (and stay warm) to start playing with the set-up again.

I'll keep you posted....

I never did post what I think was causing the chine walk..... I lunched one of the power heads and picked up a fresh one that a buddy had. Put it one and no more chine walk. I figure the one motor was weak and the other carried it??

Anyone experience this before? Nothing else changed and it was resolved with the fresh power head.

Chris, I'm gonna hold it for you!!!

[Chris]

I'd love to have your boat.

But it's too big for our lake.

And then there's the little issue of budget! :yell:

Somebody is definitely going to get a one of a kind Check though, that's one thing we know for sure. :thumb:

[HemiBee]

OK Mates....Don't turn on me and call me a traiter. Here's a Picture of my new to me ride. '02 Cigarette Top Gun. Still have the 2800OB and may keep it.

[Chris]

Another sweet ride. :drool:

You should start a new thread in the open boating forum and lay some more pics on us. :)