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teamhart2
10-11-2007, 12:08 AM
Hey everyone, so I started up the floor project, but decided to do it on the blog area since its gonna be extended and i want to put in lots of pictures and stuff, but if noone lookes at the blogs I wont get any help/input, so consider this a cheap plug to check it out. Im pretty pysched, and hope it helps you guys help me as well as help people in the future doing this/planning this. Plus I already have a question about the foam stuff on the sides under the gunwales, what is it? whats it for? whys it there? check the blog! :cheers

oh and let me know if it blows, Ill stop haha, although sorry its all broken up, I guess I can only post 4 pictures per post, so to keep the lots of pics and detail up I have to break it all up, lemme know what you think

Big Red
10-11-2007, 12:26 AM
:thumb:

cooperider
10-11-2007, 12:44 AM
Must be something wrong I can't see the blogs. I can see others but not the ones that relate to this thread.


By the way, the foam along the sides under the deck is to help with level floatation.

Big Red
10-11-2007, 01:02 AM
Hey Coop ain't that old red eye in your aviator

Old Hickory
10-11-2007, 02:10 AM
teamhart2,

can't find your blog;:brickwall: would like to see it.:) When I click over to the blog section the only 2 that show are from chris and bigred. Maybe someone can point out how to locate it.

teamhart2
10-11-2007, 10:37 AM
Hey guys, glad you are interested in the blog, sorry about the teaser, I guess the blogs default to settings where they arent shared or something, I think I fixed it so everyone can view now, although you might have to be registered I guess, anyways go see if you can check it out now, sorry about that:brickwall: Oh and they come up in reverse order so the most recent stuff is first, so if you want the right flow start at the bottom

Hopefully a link to my blog (http://checkmate-boats.com/forums/blog.php?u=15413)

cooperider
10-11-2007, 11:32 AM
You should resize your pics to around 640x480 for better viewing pleasure.


I have to ask, why make a blog about a repair? The section for overhauls is right here where you have this thread. This thread reffers back to your blog. You've actually given me an idea, starting a restoration thread here, and writeing a blog about it, by refering to the thread FROM the blog. Actually you could reffer back an forth to each of them. You see a thread is a long string of posts that relate to each other, a blog is usually a stand alone item. But hey, that's just my .02 and I'm still learning this stuff as well.

teamhart2
10-11-2007, 02:20 PM
Hey Coop, my original thinking was that the blog would be easier to reference as it would be broken up a little more, for other people rather than having to sift through dozens of pages of a thread if they were just wanting to look at a particular section or whatever, and a lot of people will do a chapter by chapter blog for other projects ive seen online. the fact that the blog limits the number of pictures you post kind of breaks it up more than I had hoped so now Im not sure, although I already started that so now I dunno, anyone have any input on what they like better? Im willing to do whatever, I mean they both serve to get the pics and stuff on here.

Also, yea Ill resize the pics in the future, and if someone wants more detail to zoom in or whatever, I can send bigger pics.

cooperider
10-11-2007, 03:43 PM
Things are still getting started in that blog area as it is so, hey at least your trying and thats how we figure this stuff out.

I'm just getting started with blogging myself and have a dozen or so that nobody has seen but me, and maybe after about a year of practice, I'll open up that site for other readers.

Chris
10-11-2007, 04:19 PM
I think the reason some members can't see the blogs is due to the fact that many of the entries are tagged as private entries which can't be viewed by other members, only by the author.

So if teamhart changes the permissions on the blogs they will be able to be viewed by everyone.

I'll check on why some usergroups can view the blogs as they shouldn't be able to. It's most likely a permissions issue related to supporting members.

Old Hickory
10-11-2007, 11:18 PM
chris,

Thanks for the info about the blog access, it will come in handy when I begin mine.



teamhart2,

Nice start to your blog:bigthumb: Thanks for changing the settings. When you begin the replacement of your foam, do you have any idea of the type you will use? ie block; sheets; liquid etc.

teamhart2
10-12-2007, 11:45 AM
Hey thanks for the responses guys,


Hickory, not entirely sure what Im gonna do about the foam yet, I really hesitate to put anything back down there, I really would like to just do the stringers and floor and leave it open to drain any water that does get in there, as Ill be the first to admit, If they cant make these areas waterproof at the checkmate/boston whaler factories, Im prolly not gonna do much better, but I am concerned about the safety/floatation issues, if my mate does sink id like it to float at the surface rather than sit on the bottom. So I was thinking of gettin foam and fitting it up in the bow and then up under the gunwales where theres a lot of unused space and then maybe put foam in the area where the foam boxes are in the back except just up on top (I might try to leave those areas more open for storage ie my toolbox and extra batt.) at worst Id like to put some closed cell foam on the sides of the floor but leave a substantial portion open in the middle for drainage. any thoughts?


also the storage in the back begs the question, how important are those boxes for structural purposes? I am thinking that probably just the thicker plywood on the inside faces of the boxes might work at knees for the transom, in which case I might just put them back the way they are as dividers for the new storage space. with foam up on the top.

what do you think hickory? what would u do for foam?

cooperider
10-12-2007, 11:52 AM
The big boxes at the back are called "air tanks" they are the volume that should be enought to keep your motor above the water so that you can motor home submerged. At least that is the logic behind level floatation. Moving the foam from under the floor to under the deck, I think would be a good move, it is wasted space anyway, and would go a long way toward making the deck stronger. It would also keep the foam out of the bilge.

teamhart2
10-12-2007, 02:23 PM
Hmm so I might wanna keep most of those boxes as foam just in case....

Coop- any recommendations for how much foam I would need up under the deck (any idea what Checkmate considers the weight needed to be supported? as Ive seen info that a cubic foot of foam will hold 60 lbs or something), and what the best way to do it would be?

I was initially thinking of gettin solid foam and cuttin it to fit up under the deck, but looking around more I may try something like putting a temp bottom of sorts under the deck and using some of that fancy pour expandable stuff to full that void under the deck then pull the bottom out and just have the foam, something like two inches above the bottom of the deck so its out of sight and leaves a bit of room for wires. Also prolly gonna put a bunch of foam up under the bow way past where feet go, theres a ton of room up there in the enticer, that way at least hopefully shed float bow up submerged given the worst case.

Old Hickory
10-14-2007, 11:05 PM
teamhart2,

I'm like you; not sure what I'll do. I'm thinking I'll use sheets of foam; much like whats used in many aluminum boats. I have a project enforcer that I should be getting in a couple of weeks. While picking it up I intend on touring the Checkmate factory. I'll have many questions; I'll let you know the answers