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Old 07-08-2017, 05:29 PM   #1
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I bought a 2014 Pulsare BR with a 2014 300XS last year from Wildman. It was the red/black/and white one he had for a while. He set it up with his standard 12' set back plate and 5' jack plate. I am currently running a 28 Trophy Plus. Top end is OK around 80mph. My concern and question is if I put 4 people in the boat or if I try pulling my 10 year old skiing or even a tube I can barely get out of the water. I have the motor down as far as it will go. Its not blowing out. Its just a real dog getting out of the water. It totally sucks and frustrating having everyone get in the bow just to take off. Do you think its a prop issue or could there be something wrong with the engine? If its a prop issue what prop do you guys recommend. I would like an all around prop. I just don't want to spend $500 on a prop not knowing if it's going to work or not. Thanks for your help.
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This is definitely a setup issue, so rest easy. It's a great boat and great engine with more than enough HP to do what you need it to do. The question you need to answer though is this: Do I want top end or low end grunt to load up and pull inflatables. Sadly, you don't get have both and please understand it's not a Checkmate issue or a Mercury issue...it's pretty much just the way it is in the boating world.

A lot of setback with a tall prop is not the ideal setup for towing. Your 28P is not the right prop for towing. When I towed inflatables behind my boats I used to use a 21P prop. It was adequate, but would let the boat fall of plane at low speeds and I found myself having to work the throttle too much. I then switched to a 19P High Five and the towing experience was night and day different. Hole shot for days. But the best thing was that the prop would let me stay on plane much easier at slower speeds due to the higher RPMs I was turning due to the lower pitch (even did this when fully loaded with fuel, kids, food, drinks, and dog.

So...my advice is to find yourself a 19P High Five. They're kind tough to find good ones used. I've bought and sold three good ones and immediately regretted doing so every time. You would think I would learn. I finally just ordered a new one this past week. You may experience porpoising with the change of prop while towing. Just bury the jackplate and tuck the trim all the way down. You can start fiddling from there with different jackplate heights.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the response. I figured it was a prop issue. Can I get the high 5 with the larger hub that will fit on the 300XS?
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I used a 24P Trophy Plus on my 2100BR 300XS for watersports and it was the ticket.... popped out of the hole with a quickness for skiing or tubing with a boat full and still did high 70's on limiter. I did have to do some trial and error with PVS plugs though. Think I ended up with 2 plugged and 2 half plugs.

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As said already, get a 23,24 or 25 pitch trophy plus and you will be happy. You don't need to get down into the 19-21 range with that hull and motor. You also probably don't need the motor all the way down on the jackplate either, once you have the right prop.

With a 23 pitch Trophy plus, watersports and passengers sitting in the back are not an issue. I have all the PVS holes plugged on the 23 pitch. I run the jackplate set about 3" below the pad most of the time with that prop while pulling stuff.

I am looking for a 25 pitch to have as an alround prop on mine.
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As said already, get a 23,24 or 25 pitch trophy plus and you will be happy. You don't need to get down into the 19-21 range with that hull and motor. You also probably don't need the motor all the way down on the jackplate either, once you have the right prop.

With a 23 pitch Trophy plus, watersports and passengers sitting in the back are not an issue. I have all the PVS holes plugged on the 23 pitch. I run the jackplate set about 3" below the pad most of the time with that prop while pulling stuff.

I am looking for a 25 pitch to have as an alround prop on mine.
Yeah...NEED is a strong word on my part, but I would offer that with 4 people in the boat and/or a kid on a tube, the 19P would make life a lot easier...not to mention staying on plane. Unless the kid wants to tube at 60 mph. Then just by the kid a helmet. I had kids on the tube for hours and hours this past weekend and we hung out at 22 MPH on the GPS all day...so if you can stay on plane at that speed or slightly higher, you should be good to go.
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Did you open the vents on your Trophy Plus? Or better question does your prop have the vent holes in it? Sorry guys I have never owned a Trophy Plus.
A 5 Blade would solve your problems but you still may be able to get similar results with Bravo 1 4 Blade.
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Sam, I don't think you even said iNEED and I don't think any of your advise is wrong.

I was having the same issues with my boat and a 27 P Trophy plus, the 23 Trophy plus I got from you solved the problem.

A lower pitch high five would work very well too and certainly would be easier(less work) to throttle while pulling tubes on plane at low speed. But it sort of is the other end of the spectrum.

There was another question asked too, about fitting the prop and hubs.

Mercury props for quite a while now have an interchangeable hub allowing you to put nearly any Mercury prop on your motor. The key is the hubs are all different.

I like having a spare prop or two and a second hub kit at the lake or even in the boat with a prop wench. You do have to have the right hub kit, you need the 1 1/4" shaft kit, they are a lot pricier then the smaller shaft kits but they are all metal and last forever.
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Good point on the hubs. I'd forgotten the 300XS was the fat shaft.

Just found this on BBC...22P High Five...$300...might be a good compromise.

http://www.bbcboards.net/showthread.php?t=823394
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Hey Everyone,
Thanks for the responses. They are very helpful. I talked to a Scott today at Mercury Racing and he recommended a 26.5 Bravo 1 XS? That still seems a bit too big? Have any of you ever tried a Bravo 1 XS? I haven't heard of many using them.
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