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Old 12-12-2006, 10:55 AM   #11
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wow says price is 329 now, has anyone else tried this prop? what engine you got mark?
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:15 PM   #12
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I am running a 2.5L 200 efi Merc. The 25" TRO4 turns the same RPM as 25" Tempest, around 5800 RPM. I'm going from 11" to 13" setback this winter. Me thinks that will bring it up to 6000 RPM. Plus a TRO4 can be run higher, but I haven't experimented yet.
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The Tempest is a larger diameter prop isn't it? I'd be surprised if the 4-blade could be run higher, isn't it smaller diameter?
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I can attest to the tro4 likeing to run high im 1 1/2" below the v and its great. This is an excelent prop for the starflite. Aaron
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The Tempest is a larger diameter prop isn't it? I'd be surprised if the 4-blade could be run higher, isn't it smaller diameter?
Yup, it's a smaller diameter. Side by sides have shown it can run 1/2" higher or more over a Tempest. They have uncanny bite. I haven't had a chance to do a lot of experimenting, but the one day I had it out, I could not make it let go no matter what I did.
I think the small block V6's actually prefer a smaller hub prop....at least on a Starflite.
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I decided last week after reading this post and the replies to purchase a 25p Trophy Plus for my 1988 Starflite. The boat has a CMC hydraulic jackplate with 5.5 inches of setback. The engine is a 1988 200 black max with rebuilt (to factory std) carbs and a new ignition system (also just factory stuff). The nosecone is from Bobs Mach Shop.

I have run a 23" chopper thru hub - got 62 mph. I have run a 26" chopper over the hub- got 62 mph. Hoping to get over 65+ with this trophy, guess what I got? 62 mph. Both GPS and Speedo. I had the motor jacked high (prop shaft at 1.5" below v), and also down a bit...no diff in top end. The hole shot and mid speed handling, however, is much nicer with the Trophy. THe engine all tests out at 125 on the compression. Revs are up there over 6k.

My question is - what do I have to do to this boat and motor combination to run faster without dropping the big bucks? What should I be able to get out of this thing for top end?
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Crawl up under the bow, Do what you have to do to check if the foam behind the bulkhead is dry or not. If its wet it can hold about 100lbs of water. There was several of us with starflites have pulled that foam out. Remove your cushions if your planning on using them. Free

If topend is your goal,Its tuff on the transom lip,find a used 5-10 inch setback braket $100-$200. Then theres water pressure issues. steering cable issues. ect. ect. ect
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Wish I had an answer for you. I was seeing 63 GPS with my Johnson 200 on a slightly heavier Starliner with a 24 Raker and the same set back. Just put on a 24 Mach 4 blade and the top end seems the same but everywhere else is better. Hoping to get out one morning this weekend to check it with the GPS again to confirm my results. Is it possible your boat is a bit waterlogged? Mine has never spent more than a couple of nights in the water so its very dry. I'd like to try a Trophy or TRO4 in a 25 or even a 24 pitch. The Raker seems to carry the bow better that the Mach.
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A 5 year old thread revived! I quit the pursuit to make my Starliner a rocket ship. Low to mid 60's is where you will be with a small block V6. The only way you can go faster is to juice the motor (big bucks) or go with massive setback (15-18") but then it will porpoise like a pogo stick at lower speeds and eventually you are going to break your transom.
I ended up running a 24" TRO4 as they are pitched 1" stiff. (25" Trophy will work) 11" setback, 2 3/4" below the pad. That is the setup for these rigs. It had great all round performance and every once in a while I would hit mid 60's in very cool whether. In the summer it ran 62-63.
Today I have a 250 Etec, 8" setback, 25" Rev4 prop 2 1/2" below pad and see low 70's. To tell you the truth you can barely even feel the difference, from seat of your pants, between 62 and 72. Enjoy the ride.
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I basically came to the same realization as you are talking about. A Liner is a fun family boat that can carry 8 yet be a somewhat quick boat out on your own. It was never designed to run like a Hydrostream or Allison and will never run with boats like that as far as top speed. All in all, on an average weekend afternoon around here I can't run wide open anyway and I'm probably limited to running in the mid 40's due to the water being rough more than anything else. It sounds like I am about making the most of my 200 so I'll probably just do the reeds, maybe shave a little off the heads, and down the road add the 225hp carbs since they are the only difference between my 200 and the same year 225. Once that stuff is done I can play the prop game. Oh, and Stay off of sites like Scream and Fly because it'll make you feel like your 65mph boat is slow.

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