Dual cable steering length?

[fbpd227]

I know this is a dumb question- but I just want to be sure BEFORE I order new cables....when measuring for cable length do you measure from the end of the cable ( eng side) to the MIDDLE of the rack to get the correct length? My old cables measure 14 feet this way. IF so- I will know when I go to get longer cables ( 15-16' _ that they will be correct- and not TOO long or TOO short. Thanx guys! BTW- anyone need the old ( still very usable) 14 foot dual cables?

 

[JW]

Go to the Teleflex web site, they show you how to measure for cables in the steering cable section of the site. I dont remember the address, but you can google it...................

 

[Hottrucks]

ok unless you changed something ( like adding a jackplate) look for a # on your cable the last 2 digits are ussually the length and you should re order that length

now if your going to opposed that is a diff story....also brand and helm will make a diff

also I noticed what your running for power ?? I think you need to add a cooling mod to your set up if you plan to run it hard, probably a low water pick up and WATER PRESURE GAUGE IS A MUST!!M you should see high 70's with your set up if you spin somethuing like a 26 and low 80's is not out of the question.......I spun the same motors to 7200 ( oil injection removed) with a set of 30 labbed cleavers to over 100 mph...just be safe first and learn to drive it at speed things change fast above 80


good luck and check out pro marine .com for your cables

 

[fbpd227]

ok unless you changed something ( like adding a jackplate) look for a # on your cable the last 2 digits are ussually the length and you should re order that length

now if your going to opposed that is a diff story....also brand and helm will make a diff

also I noticed what your running for power ?? I think you need to add a cooling mod to your set up if you plan to run it hard, probably a low water pick up and WATER PRESURE GAUGE IS A MUST!!M you should see high 70's with your set up if you spin somethuing like a 26 and low 80's is not out of the question.......I spun the same motors to 7200 ( oil injection removed) with a set of 30 labbed cleavers to over 100 mph...just be safe first and learn to drive it at speed things change fast above 80


good luck and check out pro marine .com for your cables

Yes, I added the 10" setback/ jacplate and my cables are not too short- there is also no numbers that I can find anywhere on the old cables- thus the reason far asking about the correct way to measure my OLD cables so I know what size to get next. I just bought a water PSI gauge and will be installing BEFORE she gets wet- and have been looking around for a good price on the high speed water intake scoops ( 8 hole ) to ensure enough water at speed.
High 70's and low 80's? in an Enchanter with a 1987 Merc Black Max 200HP, 2.4 carb motor? Seems a bit high for the size of this boat and that engin e, to me....I have no idea though, since I have never had it in the water yet, since buying/ rebuilding it. THAT woiuld be awesome- but my expectations are more towards the mid to high 60's- BUT 70's would be incredible!!!! I'll hold out hope!!!
The Merc manual says these motors have a 5300- 5800 rpm range? I see everywhere that people are running their motors into the 6000 range? will that hurt them, running them higher than recomended by Merc? The iol injection has been disabled and running pre-mix at @ 40:1 ( ensure enough lubrication at speed). Still looking for the "right" prop for this setup.... Thanx for all the info you guys provide! LOVE THIS SITE!!!!

 

[JW]

Mercury recommends that RPM range for two reasons, one so that the motors will last 2,000+ hours if they've been taken care of properly, and second because that's where the carb and porting have been manufactured to provide the power peak. You can spin that motor higher but you'll be getting out of the power band the higher you go.
The factory engines that were built to go to 6500 (Promax) and 7500 (2.5 EFI) were all ported higher than your stock motor is ported, so they made power higher in the band.

Interesting side note, the little 2.0 135 I have on my Pulse ski boat is rated to be propped for 5,000 to 5400 rpm range, but that little sucker makes strong power right up to 6,000 where I reign it in.................

 

[jallen355]

A stock 2.4 200 won't live long running it above 6500 rpm regularly. Propping it that way would be a waste anyway. Like JW said, it will make it's power at a lower rpm. Your mid to high 60's is more realisitic as there's no way a stock 2.4 200 will push a 20' Enchanter into the 80's. I don't think you'll ever see the 70's with it, in fact,....stock.

As for a prop, you should try all the props you can beg, borrow, or steal for the weekend in the 22"-24". Trophy Plus props are good all around props, Tempest, Tempest Plus' and Choppers will run hard to the top side with your setup, but will take alot more driver input to manage much above the high 50's.

 

[fbpd227]

WOW! Appreciate ALL the great info! I have been looking at 24" props- just seems to be the resounding pitch on enchanters. I'll probably start there and "play around" from that point. I have never had illusions of grandure about speed in an Enchanter- so 60's would keep a smile on my face.... for awhile...till I caught the "bug" and upgrade power in a few years. This 2.4 I got from Doug is an almost new looking motor with great compression ( 135+ on all cylinders) and I would not want to shorten it's life by running it over the recomended range. I'll try to keep itin the middle @ 5600 rpm's. I also doubt I will be spending ALOT of time at the top anyhow- the wife's had fusions in her neck years ago- so pounding ( from the water lol! ) is not going to be her favorit past time. ha ha ha. ALL of you guys are awesome! LOVE all the input and sharing of knowledge for newbs like me! Thanx again to everyone!

 

[fbpd227]

Also, on a side note- I did find the info I needed on the side of the old cables I pulled out. They say - Heavy Duty Ride Glide 14' 6" so I guess I need to find @ 16's to reach my motor with the 10" setback jackplate. Thanx guys!

 

[Hottrucks]

I spin my 2.4 200's and 220's to 6800 ALL THE TIME just be sure that you run GOOD OIL ( not getting into that debate) and NOTHING BUT MERC RACING GEAR LUBE in your lower unit ...once you start surfacing your lower it will start taking a beating so regular changes are recomended to check for water and small pieces ....... not sure if you have them or not but scrap the steel reeds for a set of fiber ones and that thing will run sweet.........also theres a quick mod you can do the the exhaust can that will help it breath a bit more

do a search on the byb's website for the 2.4 cherry project you will find alot of usefull tips to make it run old T rex has been beating them to death for years and knows all the secrets and is happy to share them with us...

 

[xsive]

Just so you guys know there is no difference in the porting on a 200ProMax and a 200EFI, they are the same block. Not close...THE SAME!!!!!

 

[fbpd227]

I spin my 2.4 200's and 220's to 6800 ALL THE TIME just be sure that you run GOOD OIL ( not getting into that debate) and NOTHING BUT MERC RACING GEAR LUBE in your lower unit ...once you start surfacing your lower it will start taking a beating so regular changes are recomended to check for water and small pieces ....... not sure if you have them or not but scrap the steel reeds for a set of fiber ones and that thing will run sweet.........also theres a quick mod you can do the the exhaust can that will help it breath a bit more

do a search on the byb's website for the 2.4 cherry project you will find alot of usefull tips to make it run old T rex has been beating them to death for years and knows all the secrets and is happy to share them with us...

What is "byb's website"?
Doug thought there might be Boysen Reeds in this motor already- I know it SOUNDS awesome- hits hard!
Running penzoil Synthetic 2 stroke- and Doug was running ( haven't changed it yet- won't till spring- late in the season for us now) the Mercury lower unit oil- I believe it was the racing oil. He rebuilt the lower and is super- concious of details- he even starts it in gear to keep from wearing the clutch dogs in it! Like I said a while ago in several other posts- I couldn't have felt better buying Doug's old motor- he takes GOOD care of his stuff!!!!

Also- running at @ 40:1 for "extra" lubrication and a safety measure for it at high rpm's.