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Fastest Checkmate Hull?????

teamhart2

teamhart2

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Not much of a math guy, but was sitting around wondering what the fastest checkmate hull per horsepower would be if you controlled for weight or length. By this I don't necessarily mean, which could be the fastest, but per any given horsepower would be the fastest per weight if that makes sense. I looked around online for an equation to calculate this and didnt find much. I guess its roughly an efficiency question, but if you factored in weight or length or something to even the playing ground a bit. Also was thinking that obviously setup makes a big difference, but if we had a bunch of points for each hull it might even out any differences there.

Just thinking out loud since its not that fun to think by myself. Anyone else thought about this? Figure the answer might be real simple between the small outboards and inboards, but then what about between each of those groups?
 
I've thought about this a little and wondered the same thing. Being new to the game, I've wondered what hulls were faster than others. Starflites/Starliners don't have pads thus it slows them down a little. But are they more stable because of this or is it just a draw back? Enchanter outboards look similar to Starflites, is one faster than the other?
 
ive wondered also...a hull will only go so fast no matter what hp you use ive been told.but how would you calculate the max speed?
 
I'm thinkin about a smaller hull with the least amount of hull in contact with the water with the least amount of frontal area to offer resistance to the air is gonna go the best per the control on weight and length and horsepower. Been thinkin about tryin to get Wayne, also known around here as The Shark, to strap a 2.5 Merc OffShore on his back and put some real smooth wooden shoes on his feet and see how well he goes with one of those raked out props like Chris has on his Merc. On a more serious note, if we compensate for weight and length and power, would we only be talking about how efficiently the hull went across the water?
 
Jim, I was thinking along similar lines, but once I thought about it for a little bit, I wasnt sure, and even if it was, what about the smaller hulls, checkmate made a bunch, which one would be the best?

I think it would be similar to efficiency (might be the same), once you compensate for weight, but wasnt sure, I assume the predictors etc will be out in front, but not sure if the bigger boats wouldnt be competitive or close once you factor in the weight/length.

Also, I assume these would have some sort of curve based on the HP on each hull, I dont only mean the fastest, most HP setups, but any given hull with a range of HP, if that makes any sense.
 
Well, I know you are talking efficiency rather then speed but. All the proof is in what we have for fast boats on this site.

1. Predictor getting over 90mph with 225 hp, Ask G.E.P. what his top speed has been.(I think this beats the 2000 Pulsare, I know it's a smaller boat)
2. 2100 Pulsare getting over 96mph with 300 hp, Wildman's boats(maybe Wildman needs to put a 300xs on a 2000 for fun)
3. All the boats in the 100mph club on Big Red's Thread. I can't remember who wins top speed, but I think Check300(Bill) or Vipers(Sammy, Action marine) boats do?


As a fan of older hulls I would love to know if anyone has a 300xs O/B Enchanter or Exciter running?
Vipers' I/O Enchanter was undoubtably the fastest one of those.
 
sim said:
"The fastest car is a rented car". Does anybody rent Checkmates? That would really answer this question once and for all.
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No one's going to rent Idiots like you and I what we want.

I can see the conversation now.

Sim "Can you put a 300xs on a 2000 closed deck with 15" set back and jack plate set at 3" below the pad. Please also supply the following props..., I'll need it for the weekend"

Wildman or Roberts Marine "Are you out of your mind?"

Sim "What can you do to make it happen for this weekend"

WM/RM "Hmm... OK that'll be $55,000 up front"

Sim "That's a bit much"

WM/RM "Gotta charge that, I know it's not comming back, and I hate asking the family for the money when your gone."
 
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karzrus said:
Well, I know you are talking efficiency rather then speed but. All the proof is in what we have for fast boats on this site.

1. Predictor getting over 90mph with 225 hp, Ask G.E.P. what his top speed has been.(I think this beats the 2000 Pulsare, I know it's a smaller boat)
2. 2100 Pulsare getting over 96mph with 300 hp, Wildman's boats(maybe Wildman needs to put a 300xs on a 2000 for fun)
3. All the boats in the 100mph club on Big Red's Thread. I can't remember who wins top speed, but I think Check300(Bill) or Vipers(Sammy, Action marine) boats do?


As a fan of older hulls I would love to know if anyone has a 300xs O/B Enchanter or Exciter running?
Vipers' I/O Enchanter was undoubtably the fastest one of those.
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You are forgetting 1 thing, the question was if you took into consideration the weight per horsepower, which would be the fastest. Someone actually do the math. What is the weight of the 16' Predictor vs the 20' Pulsare and how much hp does it take to make each go lets say 75mph. And by the way, the 2000 is faster than the 2100 with the same hp.
 
boatman4021 said:
You are forgetting 1 thing, the question was if you took into consideration the weight per horsepower, which would be the fastest. Someone actually do the math. What is the weight of the 16' Predictor vs the 20' Pulsare and how much hp does it take to make each go lets say 75mph. And by the way, the 2000 is faster than the 2100 with the same hp.
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Did not forget, I agree, that of course the 2000 is faster then the 2100 with same power, just like the Predictor is faster with same power.

You want a HP/lb = speed for each hull. I think it's interesting, but that with all the variables around props, set back, prop height, water condition, temp at time of test, driver skill .... Good Luck, it's never going to happen.
 
boatman4021 said:
You are forgetting 1 thing, the question was if you took into consideration the weight per horsepower, which would be the fastest. Someone actually do the math. What is the weight of the 16' Predictor vs the 20' Pulsare and how much hp does it take to make each go lets say 75mph. And by the way, the 2000 is faster than the 2100 with the same hp.
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I know everyone says that the 2000 is faster than the 2100 but I boat every weekend with a 2000 and his best speed is 85.3,mine is 85.4 with the same motors. I have not seen or heard of a 2000 going faster with a 250 on the back of it.
 
I have a 2000 running 79gps on the rev limiter with a bone stock 225. I have had 3 2100's and 3 2000's, in every case, the 2000 was faster! I even took the motor off my 2100 and bolted it to a 2000 with same prop, same jack plate, same height and went 2+mph faster.
 
What about the all elusive checkmate CAT? Ive only seen it once posted a few times on ebay, but that is the only one ive ever heard of or seen?
 
300 hundred Convincor with a notched transom on any saturday afternoon during the summer on any lake :bigthumb:. A 300 does not need perfect water conditions
 
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