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Lake Champlain - Dream becomes reality

Bear Boat

New member
Hello World!!!

About a month ago I decided it was time to get a boat so I could explore Lake Champlain (Vermont, New York and Québec, Canada).

I talked to a couple of used and new boat dealers and looked at a few boats. There seemed to be lots of boats on the market (especially with the cold weather setting in).

Here is how I proceeded to buy a Checkmate as my first motorboat.

I live on the lake so I won't need to sleep on a boat. Plus I could not imagine getting a cuddy unless the boat was at least 28+ feet long. A bowrider would do fine.

I have 40 miles of open water in front of my boat ramp. Burlington, VT is 40 miles, Plattsburgh, NY is 25 miles away and Quebec is 25 miles by boat. I did not want a boat that would take 1 hour to get anywhere.

My last constraint was that the water is only 2 1/2' to 3 1/2' deep for the first 120 feet from shore. I could not get something that has 3'+ of draft.

I looked at a handful of boats (new and used) like Glastron, Sea Ray's, Formulas and Checkmate. I discovered the Checkmate because I saw a good looking 2004 Checkmate 234 in Canada this summer.

I test drove the Canadian boat 3 weeks ago and loved how it handled and felt. The owner got me as fast as 62 MPH on my GPS with a 6.2L 320HP. He drove back into his boat house and I measured 26 inches of water and the boat had lots or clearance on the draft.

Unfortunately, the Canadian boat sat in the sun all summer and the top of the yellow hull faded badly. The owner had not given the boat much TLC. On top of that, they were asking in the 40Ks for a 3+ year old boat. In all fairness, Canadian buyers who bought Checkmate boats between 2001 and 2006 were paying anywere from 30% - 65% more in Canadian dollars. A new 2004 boat might have cost them $75,000 CDN. With the Canadian and US dollar just about at par, they don't like to hear what their boat would sell for in the US.

Pretty soon I started eliminating a lot of boats. The biggest issue was speed. It came down to Checkmate, Formula and Baja.

In my research, I also decided I would either buy new or I would buy something with a 2002 or more recent engine. Mercury upgraded most of its engines in 2002. You got a lot more horsepower with these new engines for the same block size.

Baja's did not do much for me... I could not find many recent Formula.

I called the local Checkmate dealer and priced out a new boat configured how I wanted it.

I also searched high and low on the internet and in any/every local newspaper ad I could find. I found a ton of Checkmates... but there were only a handful with the configuration close to what I was looking for.

I called a couple of listings... and one of them sounded great. After a couple of weeks of dialog and offers, I bought/got the boat!!! It arrived today!

I have a "like new" great looking 2002 ZT220 (now called the ZT230). It has a 320HP 6.2 with 200 hours on it. It also has the XZ outdrive which is slightly overkill for this engine, but hopefully it will mean less repairs for me!

What impressed me about this forum and most Checkmate owners, is that they really take care of their boats! This boat was given a lot of TLC.

Is my quest to push this boat to do 80+ MPH. No.


I wanted an amazing quality boat that is well built and has a solid following. I want enough speed to get to where I want to go quickly. I think I found the right package!

Now I just have to wait for the rain to let up so I can see what she is like on the water!

Row Bear :)
 
Glad you have found the site. And welcome aborad Mate.

Their are boat owners that have a Checkmate And Checkmate owners. The boat owner is useless in taking care of the boat. But the true Checkmate owner will take care of it like its his baby. Thats the guy you want to buy your boat from. And I am glad you found one.

To reach 80+ on gps you will need 500+ hp and over 600 foot pounds of torque. In a boat your size or a water fall. I hope you get it their, post some pics when you can we would all like to see your new ride.
 
I'm disappointed to hear a 2004 boat had that much fade in the gel, even for yellow! I wonder if CMate needs to upgrade it's gel quality? The wife's tubing boat I just sold was a Four Winns. Four Winns uses some type of gel they call Armor Cote. I haven't seen a Armor cote boat fade after just 3 years in the sun, and I know Four Winns buyers don't take care of their boats like we do! Four Winns gaurentees that with one coat of wax per year, no fading. Period.
 
armourcote is used by sea ray as well - only for the colours and is does seem to hold up very well. with the suns uv rays getting stronger, colours don't stand a chance if they aren't maintained and kept under cover.

i used to work for a doral dealer and their 04's were fading terribly by 05, however that has a lot to do with the poor quality of the boats - they make bayliner look like a cobalt
 
hopefully ill see you out on the lake next summer, my lake house is in south hero and im usally up there for about a month in the summer. its nice to see alot of checkmates up in that area. fox marine in essex vt was a checkmate dealer up there till a few years ago.
 
Welcome aboard!

I just got a 2004 yellow Checkmate and one of the issues with it is that the yellow is faded on the top side too. Got some work to do in the spring.

Cheers,

Gregg
 
Update from Vermont

Folks,

Here is the boat as I was putting it into the water this May.

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I will try to get some action shots. The boat is in for its last warrantee repair... and will be back in the water next week!

Looking forward to seeing other Checkmates on the water this summer!

Rob
 
maybe Ill see you guys up around that way sometime. A friend has a place on the mouth of missiquoi that ill prolly run up too, as well as hanging around mallets bay and burlington area
 
Teamhart2 wrote: "maybe Ill see you guys up around that way sometime. A friend has a place on the mouth of missiquoi that ill prolly run up too, as well as hanging around mallets bay and burlington area"


I live just south of the new bridge and Missisquoi Bay... I will keep an eye out for your boat!

Rob :cheers
 
Action shot!!!

It is kind of tough to take action shots when you are the person driving the boat and holding the camera. I finally passed my camera to some friends on another baot who shot a video of me coming up to them on their starboard side.

Below is a frame grab from the video where I actually was not touching water!!!

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This boat really moves!!!

I had 6 people in the boat, 1/2 a tank of gas and was loaded with gear!
 
Video clip Flying ZT

Well, after many requests for the video clip from the Flying ZT photo, I finally sat down and figured out how to take a very large HD video clip and convert it into a short clip (3 seconds) that would not be too large for others to download (less that 1 MB). Quicktime Pro is great once you learn to master it!

Below is the link to the video.

http://www.fairpoint.net/~robroy94030/flyingZT.mov


I am not sure how to insert the video right into the message without losing most of the quality. That will be another project!

To put some context behind the photo, I had given some friends my HD camera and a 15 minute head start to head up Lake Champlain. I was not planning to "fly" my ZT, but as I came up from behind them and they were filming, I veered to their starboard side and crossed their wake. The wake lifted my boat in the relatively calm water and gave the impression of "flying" for 6 or 7 frames. I was throttling back just as I was crossing the wake and slowed down beside them. They were going 25 MPH. If you pause quicktime and press the forward/back arrow keys, you can advance frame by frame to see the boat lift out of the water and carry forward about 30'!

Pretty neat, though I would not suggest people try this. It was not planned... but after downloading the video I realized what my friends had filmed! The danger is in approaching another boat (and it's wake) when going fast. Safety rules say your boat should be going at safe/slow speeds when within 200' of another boat.

Enjoy!
 
Welcome to the site Bear. I also live in vermont and I keep my boat in mallets bay at jakes marina. We should keep in touch through the winter and hook up next summer to tear up some **** on the water.
 
JDinVT,

Absolutely!!! I have seen a few Checkmate boats up here just south of Mississquoi Bay. Waved to a few... but I will try to round some up for an event!

Rob
 
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