lifting my enforcer? need some solutions!

[Old Hickory]

Okay fellas; need you guys to put your collective heads together and help me find a solution to finishing the underside of my enforcer. This bad boy is heavy!

I will hopefully will be applying paint to my deck in Feb. But will soon be wanting to strip and paint the hull. I have pretty much ruled out flipping the boat because of it's size and weight. Need some Ideas on how to lift it partially off the trailer so I can gain access to the under side. I plan on rolling my paint and believe doing the hull in sections will be the best alternative. just need some ideas on how best to accomplish this. I've had someone already suggest a "cherry picker"; but not sure how to set it up. I know there is a way to do this but right now my inexperience really shows.

Hick

 

[illMATTic]

I know my predictor weighed way less. I tried to hoist it up in my garage with standard 2x4 truss'. lets just say it DID NOT work. by the time I could get it high enough to get it up off the trailer; I didn't feel comfortable with it hanging there. I did have a 4x4 running the length if the boat up above the truss.

I ended up going to my work and using the car hoist to lift it up. this was super easy and i was sure it could hold the weight.

you could always spend the 100 bucks and have a marina lift it off then you could paint the bottem where it would ride on the trailer. set it back down and then paint the rest at home. unless of coarse you have a roller trailer.


OOOH MAN it looks hat hanging there!

 

[81 enchanter]

I know my predictor weighed way less. I tried to hoist it up in my garage with standard 2x4 truss'. lets just say it DID NOT work. by the time I could get it high enough to get it up off the trailer; I didn't feel comfortable with it hanging there. I did have a 4x4 running the length if the boat up above the truss.

I ended up going to my work and using the car hoist to lift it up. this was super easy and i was sure it could hold the weight.

you could always spend the 100 bucks and have a marina lift it off then you could paint the bottem where it would ride on the trailer. set it back down and then paint the rest at home. unless of coarse you have a roller trailer.


OOOH MAN it looks hat hanging there!

looks safe but scary all at the same time...hahaha

 

[Rob B]

You can do what this guy did with his 28' Bayliner. That's if you got the head room in the garage. http://baylinerownersclub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24902 or fabricate some stands. http://baylinerownersclub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26583

 

[Old Hickory]

You can do what this guy did with his 28' Bayliner. That's if you got the head room in the garage. http://baylinerownersclub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24902 or fabricate some stands. http://baylinerownersclub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26583

Robbie;

thanks, I've looked at making a set of them; trouble is getting the boat on them in my garage. Plenty of head room; but not much to wiggle around in.

Thinking of making a cradle out of 4x4's with a set of casters to move the boat around the garage. similar to what checkmate uses out on the factory floor.

 

[Mr. Buss]

wow.....

 

[Old Hickory]

I know my predictor weighed way less. I tried to hoist it up in my garage with standard 2x4 truss'. lets just say it DID NOT work. by the time I could get it high enough to get it up off the trailer; I didn't feel comfortable with it hanging there. I did have a 4x4 running the length if the boat up above the truss.

I ended up going to my work and using the car hoist to lift it up. this was super easy and i was sure it could hold the weight.

you could always spend the 100 bucks and have a marina lift it off then you could paint the bottem where it would ride on the trailer. set it back down and then paint the rest at home. unless of coarse you have a roller trailer.

not a bad idea....going to the marina. You're right...... I could get all done around the bunks and then lift it and finish it up. have to think this one thru.

 

[harleycheckmate]

when I painted my boat i lifted it with a jack in the back with 3 2X4's about 12" s long an plywood on top then the front was held by me takeing my light out a screwing a i hook into a 2x4 through the light hole then hooked that to a rachet strap to the rafters it worked fine for me but there is a small spot no one will ever see thats not painted new

 

[senatorBIGBLOCK]

how to hang a boat

Well I have access to the proper tools since I work on boats for a living.
Having a safe and secure hoist lifts make work like this easy
You do not want to work under a boat that can fall

See if you can borrow some poppets (4 would be better) and large wooden blocks.
If you have a roller trailer it is not hard. You need to have 3 points on which the boat will sit.

You can slide the boat off the trailer about 2 feet, Oh have trailer secured to your tow vehicle,
use two poppets in the back corners, Make sure the boat does not move!
Then support the keel with a floor jack, ease the trailer out a bit, reposition the jack to get by the trailer axles and block the keel near the bow just froward of the windshield .
When you need access at the rear corners use the other two poppets just forward of the rear ones.
We do this all the time, just make sure the boat does not move off the rear poppets!

ANdrew

 

[Old Hickory]

what are poppets?

 

[senatorBIGBLOCK]

what are poppets?

we call them poppets, they are jack stands for boats, a square pyramid shaped metal tubing with an adjustable screw that has a platform attached.
see images.

 

[senatorBIGBLOCK]

jack stands

oops here are some images

 

[Old Hickory]

Thats what I thought they were; but, LOL, all I saw on your first pic was the two ladders...... Thought you were one helluva magician to get those boats on top of 'em....gives new meaning to the term "poppets"

I think I'm going to use a set of motor boat dollies; here is an example of what I found today. The pics are of some made in the uk; but I found several mfg here in the states about $200-$250 ea. If you know where I can get them for less money, let me know.

Hick

 

[senatorBIGBLOCK]

Yes, those boat dollies will work, and you can move your boat around the shop with ease... maybe too easy...if you are laying on your back and pushing hard on the hull, the whole boat may move.

Getting your boat off the trailer might be the hardest part, you don't want it to land on the floor while trying to put it on the stands.

that price seems fair, but check with your local boat yard see if they will let you rent them for a while. Will you ever use them again?

The photo i posted was taken last month when I was blue printing the bottom of my Senator.
no ladders support , used the overhead hoist and straps off the bow eye and stern eyelets.
ANdrew

 

[Old Hickory]

I'll probably use them again; I'm going to look at having a set welded up at my local weld shop. If not I'll be buying.

I have thought about it for a long time but just needed to see how others were doing this. I think the dollies will give me better support and I can move the boat around in my garage and out to my drive way to make the transfer from the trailer. I think all it will take is about 3 people to do it. A bubba lift will take about 15-20; at least 4 cases of beer and a whole side of pork BBQ.

Hick

 

[Old Hickory]

MAJOR UPDATE!

Well, it seems I may be able to rent a portion of a 3200 sqft garage that is primarily used for boat repair. The owner has a mobile boat repair business and dosn't use much of his space. Will cost me $400 a month; I'll have 24/7 access and I can use all of his equipment including his boat stands, compressor etc. It is also ventilated so I can sand and spray as well. I figure it will take me about three months to finish the resto. I am going to look at it this weekend; should have an update by sunday.

Hick

 

[senatorBIGBLOCK]

Hey, that sound great!
lots of room all the equipment and priced right!
I hope it all works out
Andrew

 

[Rob B]

Well, it seems I may be able to rent a portion of a 3200 sqft garage that is primarily used for boat repair. The owner has a mobile boat repair business and dosn't use much of his space. Will cost me $400 a month; I'll have 24/7 access and I can use all of his equipment including his boat stands, compressor etc. It is also ventilated so I can sand and spray as well. I figure it will take me about three months to finish the resto. I am going to look at it this weekend; should have an update by sunday.

Hick

That's a reasonable price considering the use of his equipment and space. You would spend $1200 plus to get the stuff needed for what you're doing.
Good find!!!!

 

[boatman4021]

As a backup plan, if you can round up 3 auto style engine lifts, just put 1 in the front and 2 in the back on each corner hooked to the lifting eyes and just pick it up! This leaves the entire bottom open for painting. Just keep some sort of dead fall near the area that you are working on. 1 good engine lift will hold the weight of your boat. 3 will do it safely. boatman

 

[TheNerd]

You could build something like this in your driveway. I used it to hoist the motor out and back in. Worked pretty good but the neighbors didnt like it much, my friends and family thought I had lost my mind. Afterwards it was modified into an oversized swingset for the kid, now everyone loves it.