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Verado Rigging, Etc

BullittBen

BullittBen

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I've been looking at Center Consoles for my Dad and found something that makes me wonder. I see many prices that look like boat companies and dealers are charging $14000 more for the same boat with a 250 Verado vs a 150 EFI.

It looks to me like you can pick up a new 150 EFI for $8-10k and a 250 Verado for $15-16k. That is only $5-8k difference. Does it cost the extra $5-9k to buy SmartCraft Gauges, Hydraulic Steering Helm and everything else for a Verado or are they just charging a silly amount for the upgrade? What comes with the Verado itself for $15k?

Sounds unreasonable to me. I'd rather buy the boat and motor and rig it myself.

Anyone heard anything about the smaller Verados? I wouldn't mind having one on my V-Mate (other than the weight - but using a 175-200 instead of the Max. Rec. 150hp may make up for it :lol: ....)

"Supercharged" just sounds cool on an outboard.....
 
I dont think the Verado would run with an Opti. Hole-shot or top end................
 
Boatman, the Mercury site says the 200 Opti is 497lbs and the Verado 200 is 510.

Ya'll are probably right though, the Opti probably would outrun the Verado and hold up better.

The supercharger is still cool though and I may go 4-stroke just for the ease of it.

I would still like to know if anyone has any personal experience with the 4 cyl Verados.
 
no experiance with verados, but i had a 150 and 175 suzuki out last summer, and was blown away with the throttle response and power of these motors. all i can tell you is that the seat in the pants feel was close to a two stroke. the 19 foot deckboat easily did 55 mph and time to plane was almost instant. and these motors were both 4cyl.
 
I don't know for sure who is right, may be a mis-print, but what I am reading says the Verado is 635lbs. What I do know for sure is, I DON'T WANT ONE! I'll stick to my 2 strokes and all the smoke. boatman
:cheers
 
just rigged 3 verados.. the engine price is for the engine itself, you'll need a rigging kit, guages, and throttle and shift, and steering.. you will also need a computer with cds on it.. so you'll have to know a merc guy anyway.. if you do rig yourself, youll need full instructions on wiring the jbox's command module and so forth.. its better to let the pros do this.
 
Hey Boatman - We're both right!! I just realized there is a 4 cyl Verado 200 and a 6 cyl Verado 200! I was referring to the 4 cyl. I wasn't looking at the 6 cyl because I knew they were heavy. I was wondering how we were disagreeing.......

I bet there's a big difference between the 4 & 6 cyl 200's.....

I guess what Happy is telling us tells the story. The motor may not be that expensive, but Merc has it set up where that is only part of the cost of buying one and setting it up. I hate it when companies do that. I guess an Opti is the only way to go since Merc doesn't make a 4 stroke that's reasonably priced.

Chris E., I guess from what I've heard, I may have to consider a Suzuki also. I have a friend that sold Suzuki's in the 80's and said they were great motors then. For a four stroke, they sound as good or better than anything else I've heard of, especially between 140-200 HP range. The 140 is 55lbs lighter than the 150. That may not be worth it if I stay below the Max. Rec. HP. The 140 may be best.
 
boatman4021 said:
I don't know for sure who is right, may be a mis-print, but what I am reading says the Verado is 635lbs. What I do know for sure is, I DON'T WANT ONE! I'll stick to my 2 strokes and all the smoke. boatman
:cheers
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Boatman, Merc just released a new lightweight 200hp Verado. I believe that is what they are talking about. Check the portal page of S&F for the article.

I am interested to see performance comparisons between the Verado, Opti, and E-tec. 510lbs is "dry" weight if I recall which means no fluids...so it will probably weigh more than that. How much? I don't know.
 
BullittBen said:
Hey Boatman - We're both right!! I just realized there is a 4 cyl Verado 200 and a 6 cyl Verado 200! I was referring to the 4 cyl. I wasn't looking at the 6 cyl because I knew they were heavy. I was wondering how we were disagreeing.......

I bet there's a big difference between the 4 & 6 cyl 200's.....

I guess what Happy is telling us tells the story. The motor may not be that expensive, but Merc has it set up where that is only part of the cost of buying one and setting it up. I hate it when companies do that. I guess an Opti is the only way to go since Merc doesn't make a 4 stroke that's reasonably priced.

Chris E., I guess from what I've heard, I may have to consider a Suzuki also. I have a friend that sold Suzuki's in the 80's and said they were great motors then. For a four stroke, they sound as good or better than anything else I've heard of, especially between 140-200 HP range. The 140 is 55lbs lighter than the 150. That may not be worth it if I stay below the Max. Rec. HP. The 140 may be best.
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My brother in law works for suzuki canada, that's why i get to play with stuff from time to time. he has a 19 grew/scorpion knock off test boat with a 300 v6 that i want to try this summer - he says it works really well. the only problem with there stuff is that the v6 is only available in xl shaft. all i can say is that i've run a lot of motors over the years and the suzukis are very impressive.
 
Kool! I didn't know that there was a 4cyl. model. If I had to choose, I think the 4cyl. would be the way to go with that much weight diff. boatman
 
Yea, I'm loving the idea of the 4cyl Verado:drool: , but the cost is what I'm wondering about. They even have low compression so you can safely run 87 octane fuel. I wonder what a 150 Verado would do on my 17' V-Mate?

If anyone works at a Merc dealer, I'd love to know a realistic number on what it would cost including rigging etc. I wonder if you can use my existing (new)Teleflex analog gauges and dual cable steering with the smaller Verados?
 
verados are all fly by wire, and for the most part competent moters.. some glitches, but all manufacuters have them.. the pcm in the verados is smart.. for example.. the 225, 250 and 275 are the same engine.. the pcm or computer is different, if you have a 250 and going to race a 275 in the same boat.. and say the 275 guy runs 87 ron.. and the 250 guy runs 93 ron.. the 275 is now down to 250, and the 250 is a 250.. you have no real basis for who is better..

and i'll admit i'm a high horsepower i/o guy.. but going to school on o/b's and learning quick..

i dont know of any package out there that is adapting from fly by wire back to cables.. i do know that you can incorp the power steering from the verado back.. if you currently have hyd steereing.. i have done this project already.
 
I knew the big Verados could only use their hydraulic steering, but the small Verados have a standard looking tilt tube. I was just wondering if you could use cable steering on those. On the Merc Website, they only mention hydraulics though so I don't know.:confused:
 
INLINE 4 VERADO

Not the most impressive of motors if ya ask me. I think they have considerable vibrations throught the rpm range. Have you ever had to work on one? I have and they are a pain in the ass. the cowl on the 4cyl suck! They leave very little room to work on. The steeringis the conventional style bracket everyone is using so you won't get power assist steering unless you bump up to the in-line 6. That thing is another whole can of worms. More cowling problems, on the 6 to remove the gearcase you have to pull the lower chaps (chinese plastic garbage) and if you want to drop the lower unit for any reason your changing your engine oil every time. I've been rigging running and servicing them for a couple of years now and again.....Im not all that impressed.
If you want my opinion, Buy a 150 yamaha 4 stroke with all yamaha guages and you will never consider buying a black motor again.
just my 2cents anyway
pete
 
Hey chkmte,
Do you ever boat on or around Tampa bay?
I got to thinking about it and I sort of remember seeing a GT like yours but I dont remember it having a big Yamaha.
 
That's the kind of info I had never heard on either one. Thanks for the input CHKMTE. If I buy a 150, I want a VMAX or a ETEC 150HO. Both of those look like they put out more than an actual 150 at the propshaft. I'd probably buy the Yamaha VMAX 150.
 
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