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1993 starflite floor suggestions

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sicknick12

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Ok I have a 93 starflite thats been neglected...left outside, uncovered for a few years and the paint has realy bad fading to the point where it pitted, anyway i sanded that and got the boat to a point where it looks decent...

What I am wondering is, From previous threads it looks like my floor is different or im just not seeing the begining steps to removing or repairing....I would like to just do a quik repair, only cause i just dont have the time or space...The floor seems solid and doesnt move when you walk on it or even jump...The screws that hold down the seats is what im having a problem with, the seat riped out from someone falling on it...So I decided to cut out a section where the seat was only to find another floor under it both wood though dark but yets seems dry and i know the pics im gonna post looks realy bad but its mostly saw dust that just got dirty but there is some darkness but the wood seems good and solid...I think im gonna cut a section out of the bottom floor then make 2 pieces that i will glue together and join it with the old floor.......any suggestions will be appreciated or $$offers$$ on the boat lol......

Did checkmate put foam under the floor? if so i will rip it all out i need speed....lol



ok lol i wrote all this and cant figure out how to post pics ill get back to you guys thanks for the help
 
In all probability, if the wood is black, that means mildew is in the wood. If that is the case new wood and adhesive probably will not stick
to it. I am not familiar with the 93 model but my 85 had foam under the floor. Sims 87 has foam under the floor.

If you send me your pics, I will post them for you. Either in a PM or to
jtpatronimfg@comcast.net
 
thanks for the reply.

i sent you a email with the pics...im at work or i would figure it out myself, again thanks for the help.... did you put the foam back in when you finished the floor or left it out..just wondering if it helped with stability or just a safty thing...thanks
 
Foam is required for the coast guard requirements. As far as I know, all boats have foam in them. I put it back in mine but a lot of people don't. The down side is if something happens, insurance has to bring it back up. If they inspect it and find there is no foam they could deny the claim.

The foam only is a flotation thing for if the hull is ripped open or it takes on water. It will keep the boat from sinking all the way, in theory that is!
 
sicknick12 said:
thanks for the reply.

i sent you a email with the pics...im at work or i would figure it out myself, again thanks for the help.... did you put the foam back in when you finished the floor or left it out..just wondering if it helped with stability or just a safty thing...thanks
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I did not put foam back in the floor. However I did put foam under the deck where is really should be to keep the boat in an upright position should it take on water. As for USCG regs, home made boats under 20 feet must have foam, over 21 feet do not need it. As for production boats
I believe foam is required, especially for insurance reasons.

I will check my email for the pics.

Try sending the pics again, for some reason I couldn't open the
email.

Jim
 
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I am posting these photo's for "sicknick12". I think what he see's is the mirror of the wood print in the foam, not a second layer of wood.
Try poking it with a screw driver or knife to see what it really is.
 

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its another piece of 1/2 wood...i did push a whole thru with a screwdriver where the passenger side seat was....it actually looks like there is another piece of wood under that but either way the screws tightened thru that second piece not the part i cut out.....seems alot different from what you had huh?
 
Both of my floor restos had an extra piece of wood underneath the seats to hold the pedestals. I would remove the floor completely and get rid of the saturated foam. Good luck!!!
 
I learn something new everyday on this forum. My floor didn't have a second layer of plywood under the seats, just a 3/4" disk on top of the floor for the pedestal to fasten to. Just don't allow the seat fasteners
go through the floor to the bottom. I applied 3M 5200 to my seat screws before installing them.

I only try to make suggestions where I have first hand knowledge. I learned alot from the resto projects of cmpulse170 and bigredinohio before
I started mine. This was the first fiberglass boat I worked on and just didn't know where to start. Once I saw their photo's and bio I knew what to expect and had do. Not rocket science (the wood work) but just common sense. The fibreglass work I had to learn.

Follow Robbie's (cmpulse170) suggestion and replace the whole floor and stringers. In the process you can strengthen the transom with better support knees than what the factory provided. If you can remove the stringers without breaking them, you will have the patterns to make the new parts. Always cut limbers anywhere 2 pieces of stringer make contact. That will allow water to drain and not get trapped anywhere.
(factory oversight)

Then you have a new "93" that will be worry free.
 
I may be wrong, but I'm thinking '93 was probably the last year the Starflite was made. Who knows, maybe yours was the final one.

Congratulations on owning one of the coolest boats ever made!!
 
Yea 93 was the last year of the starflite...its definatly one of the coolest boats...or i wouldnt even try to attempt this...so wish me luck lol im gonna do my best ill take some pics along the way and keep you posted and thanks for the help and future help lol.......
 
Just an interesting bit of trivia, Mike @ Checkmate had told me a while back that the Starflite/Starliner molds were sold to someone in South America.

Maybe another part of the world is still looking old school cool.
 
I wonder, now that the molds are in another country if it
would be illegal to splash the Starflite hull? :devil: Interesting! :drool:
 
OK, I'm a little late to this discussion (day late and a dollar short - that's the story of my life).

I'll add my vote for ripping all the existing deck out and making it right.

Also, as far as the foam, I'd say go ahead and use it. You'll only be putting around 10 pounds or less of foam in, plus it adds rigidity to your deck. It's my opinion that current USCG approved 2-part pour foams are a lot less prone to picking up water than older foam. (US Composites sells it along with all the fiberglass supplies you'll need). AND if you do a good job (as JTPatroni mentioned) of making sure that water has a path to the bilge without being able to get to bare wood or foam your "new" boat will last forever.
 
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