Impossible to find another decent used 2100BR so......

[hotdaddy27]

Many people have been burnt by that approach with these boats. It's not about neglect, it is about construction quality and making the wood water tight.

I have to agree.

There are some guys on S&F that own Hydro Steams that were stored dry for many years with little to no prior use and still had rotten bottoms.

It is a construction problem, not an abuse problem.

On your specific model/vintage, I am not sure JW. Personally, I would save myself the work.

Vote to follow.

HD

 

[hotdaddy27]

Dude, I take ***** bigger that that O/B.

Go and get yourself a 2100 with a 3L Merc!

One all around boat will be half the maintenance costs and one less motor to worry about rebuilding.

Also, with todays fuels, you will always be worrying about letting one sit for an extended time frame.

HD

 

[JUPITER PULSARE]

Tough choice.....both are great boats with very different ride characteristics! I've owned both...2 Checkmates and I'm on my 2nd Hydrostream (AE21); my first Hydrostream was a Valero YT bowrider which has a very similar hull to the Vegas XT you're looking at. The Hydrostreams are very light and fast but cannot handle the abuse or water that a Pulsare 2100 can. The quality of build, fit and finish is much better in the Checkmate. The Pulsare can handle bigger water with a much better ride, but does not have the neck snapping instant excelleration of the Stream (unless you have a 300X). If you spend alot of time running by yourself in flat water, buy the Stream to get your jollies out and keep the family sled for the picnics. If you spend most of the time with 4 people or more on board, keep looking for the Pulsare 2100 bowrider. The other thing to think about is that clean Hydrostreams are always easy to sell...so even if you buy it but get tired of it, the Stream won't be hard to sell. PS...the only thing the Stream you're looking at is missing is a hyd. Jackplate...you'll want 10" to really let the XT hull go to work!!

 

[Enticer1]

I Stand Corrected

Thanks for the information about all HydroStreams being rotten. I guess mine must have been a splash built by another company and then labeled with counterfeit logos. My core is popcorn dry and the build quality is excellent along with a construction step that neither of my previous Mates had. (The top cap is glassed to the hull.) I'm not trying to start a pissin match between Mates and Streams but I had people tell me my Mates were junk too but they always seemed to be in another brand of boat. I love Checkmates and would be in one now if I had found a deal on a clean and solid one in my price range. I only sold my Sportsfire because I wanted to move into something a little bigger and more managable with the speeds I like to run. Peace Brothers, isn't it really all just about being up on the pad with the wind on our nose and a S___ Eatin Grin on our face.

Over & Out

 

[JUPITER PULSARE]

Thanks for the information about all HydroStreams being rotten. I guess mine must have been a splash built by another company and then labeled with counterfeit logos. My core is popcorn dry and the build quality is excellent along with a construction step that neither of my previous Mates had. (The top cap is glassed to the hull.) I'm not trying to start a pissin match between Mates and Streams but I had people tell me my Mates were junk too but they always seemed to be in another brand of boat. I love Checkmates and would be in one now if I had found a deal on a clean and solid one in my price range. I only sold my Sportsfire because I wanted to move into something a little bigger and more managable with the speeds I like to run. Peace Brothers, isn't it really all just about being up on the pad with the wind on our nose and a S___ Eatin Grin on our face.

Over & Out

Oh EnticerOne...don't get your pantys tied up in a not!! Nobody is badmouthing the Hydrostreams or Checkmates...just stating some common facts found in both brands. There will always be exceptions (My 1988 Valero YT Bowrider was also rock solid and dry-(now owned by Tjaz) but the fact remains...if you look at the glasswork and workmanship under the pretty gelcoat..inside the floor...under the topdeck, etc...Checkmate builds a stronger, cleaner build with more attention to detail. My old Valero (as dry as it was) had core separating from the topdeck back rest, sloppy workmanship in the dashboard corners (no glass wrapped), holes drilled with no backing to bite into (floor ski locker bezel, switch panel), sloppily sprayed floatation foam inside the topdeck, etc. Minor complaints but still very avoidable. Heck..even Harley Davidson has their share of common traits and problems!!

 

[Enticer1]

JP, at least spell " Knot " correctly

 

[JUPITER PULSARE]

JP, at least spell " Knot " correctly

LMAO!! Why Knot!!!

 

[JW]

Tough choice.....both are great boats with very different ride characteristics! I've owned both...2 Checkmates and I'm on my 2nd Hydrostream (AE21); my first Hydrostream was a Valero YT bowrider which has a very similar hull to the Vegas XT you're looking at. The Hydrostreams are very light and fast but cannot handle the abuse or water that a Pulsare 2100 can. The quality of build, fit and finish is much better in the Checkmate. The Pulsare can handle bigger water with a much better ride, but does not have the neck snapping instant excelleration of the Stream (unless you have a 300X). If you spend alot of time running by yourself in flat water, buy the Stream to get your jollies out and keep the family sled for the picnics. If you spend most of the time with 4 people or more on board, keep looking for the Pulsare 2100 bowrider. The other thing to think about is that clean Hydrostreams are always easy to sell...so even if you buy it but get tired of it, the Stream won't be hard to sell. PS...the only thing the Stream you're looking at is missing is a hyd. Jackplate...you'll want 10" to really let the XT hull go to work!!

The Vegas XT actually does have a hydraulic jack plate, 6" setback.
Hyd jack plate, trim on wheel, foot throttle, CLE gearcase, 28" chopper, dual cable

 

[JUPITER PULSARE]

The Vegas XT actually does have a hydraulic jack plate, 6" setback.
Hyd jack plate, trim on wheel, foot throttle, CLE gearcase, 28" chopper, dual cable

JW, you got everything you need then! Buy it and enjoy it!

 

[JW]

The poll is getting closer to even! 10 to 8 now, pretty close! That's how I feel about whether to go for it or not. Sure would be nice to have a 75-81 mph boat and not have to change props between uses, but then I'd have another boat and lift to winterize and store

 

[JW]

Almost decision time!

 

[JohnBouy]

That looks like 2 keepers to me.Ride it like you stole it!

 

[BADBK]

How much $$$ for the 'stream?

 

[JW]

Hard to tell. It's a package deal, boat/motor/trailer/aluminuml lift/aluminum canopy. If I could determine the value of the lift and the canopy, then I could figure out the boat package price. I know a new 2600 pound aluminum lift and canopy would run about $4000 ++. Hard to tell what it's worth used.

 

[JohnBouy]

Just seen a lift on Craigslist in Central Fla.for $2,500.was used of course and you had to cut all bolts then replace them after.You also had to haul it thru a narrow yard.Thought you may be interested for a value of the lift.Good luck with your decision.

 

[BADBK]

Hard to tell. It's a package deal, boat/motor/trailer/aluminuml lift/aluminum canopy. If I could determine the value of the lift and the canopy, then I could figure out the boat package price. I know a new 2600 pound aluminum lift and canopy would run about $4000 ++. Hard to tell what it's worth used.

C'mon now.... I find it hard to believe you'd consider buying something when you really don't know what you're paying for it.

 

[JW]

C'mon now.... I find it hard to believe you'd consider buying something when you really don't know what you're paying for it.

You are our resident expert on buying/selling lately, I was hoping you'd throw out a guesstimate in what this could be worth

 

[BADBK]

 

[ndaniels]

Thats a good looking stream... no denying that. Myself, I'd shy away from it just cuz the whole possible rot deal. I'd spend my money on a new ,or newer SS to play in and keep that family boat. Like others have said, depends on what the plans would be for the 2100... that boat makes the most sense- but look at our hobby/sport.. sense doesn't really come into play for the most part

 

[JW]

Thats a good looking stream... no denying that. Myself, I'd shy away from it just cuz the whole possible rot deal. I'd spend my money on a new ,or newer SS to play in and keep that family boat. Like others have said, depends on what the plans would be for the 2100... that boat makes the most sense- but look at our hobby/sport.. sense doesn't really come into play for the most part

Just this week I spoke with an 'SS' expert for a good hour. I have been searching pretty hard for one, but he's kinda talked me out of it. According to him (and a few others that have driven/owned both) the new HStream Venom is the 20' hot hull to buy. It's supposedly MUCH easier to drive fast, and is all composit, and used examples have been selling for thousands less than the SS. I've only found one Venom for sale though, and it's at the very top of the pricing scale.