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Cleaver prop on Pulsare?

You better drive the boat before you buy it -- I sent you a phone # of a guy who would sell his skater for sale. If a cat is what you are looking for the Skater know matter what the age is hands down the better boat with a much better resale.
The bad part is both boats do nothing other then go fast thats it and on you way there they hop like crazy. 30 to 55 mph range!! If you really want to go fast and still enjoy other aspects of boating I would suggest you find a good used Liberator around -- the tunnel as opposed to the full cat is a much more versitle boat.
If you want to buy a great boat at a great price -- buy Jup's long deck and put a 300xs or x on it -- you will love the boat the performance -- the price of insurance --everything.
 
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You better drive the boat before you buy it -- I sent you a phone # of a guy who would sell his skater for sale. If a cat is what you are looking for the Skater know matter what the age is hands down the better boat with a much better resale.
The bad part is both boats do nothing other then go fast thats it and on you way there they hop like crazy. 30 to 55 mph range!! If you really want to go fast and still enjoy other aspects of boating I would suggest you find a good used Liberator around -- the tunnel as opposed to the full cat is a much more versitle boat.
If you want to buy a great boat at a great price -- buy Jup's long deck and put a 300xs or x on it -- you will love the boat the performance -- the price of insurance --everything.
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Didn't get the #. I will definitely drive one before I buy. I would love to get a 21' Liberator of Randy's but $50K ain't on the horizon and I love wave jumping which I don't know if any cat is good for??? Been tossin around Jup's and gettin it simonized buuuut I dunno. I just came from a 2100 too so..... ins wasn't soo kind to me either actually.. So the real question is what goes 90+ and handles big nasty chop, is fun, practical, not $50K, jumps waves, etc????

I'd LOOOVE a Tuff21!!! But they're $50K+ too... :shakehead: A 21' Superboat has crossed my mind... ahh I dunno.
 
How bad do you want to get beat up is also the question?

All I know is that some of the Long Island guys up this way do some unreal wave jumping in those Super Boats.

In the looks department, they aint touching my 2100. But in Long Island Sound, they can handle the ruff stuff while I stay in the lake.

HD
 
Ha, I did some unreal wave jumping in my Pulsare!! Don't worry Mike, they're built tough! Those Tuff21's are unfriggin real in the looks department!! -drool- I think the Superboats are pretty damn good lookin too-on par with the 21' Pulsare, plus you can give em a real beating! The water around here gets pretty sporty at times, plus when I want to go in the big water and play around... I'm wondering what the hull diff is between a super and 21' pulsare? A 300x puts the Supers in the mid 90's all day...???

Optimally if I could find a bare 21' Superboat hull and let Randy work some magic with a simonized 225---> 300 (for ins reasons) I'd be sold... I think.

***Hmmm, just got a counteroffer on the Red 24' Pulsare LD w/300xs on Ebay-$45K brand new.... Pretty good deal...
 
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Yessir. Trying to get him to $39K.
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I would be suprised if they let it go that cheap (I hope it does for you!).

I have seen that boat in person several times. I almost purchased it at one point, boat show impulse, but they wanted to give me about $5K for my 2100 that I bought from them 1 year earlier.

The boat is sharp, but keep in mind it has been sitting around and gone to shows for 2 years. That boat was delivered with mine in March of 2008.

HD
 
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Didn't get the #. I will definitely drive one before I buy. I would love to get a 21' Liberator of Randy's but $50K ain't on the horizon and I love wave jumping which I don't know if any cat is good for??? Been tossin around Jup's and gettin it simonized buuuut I dunno. I just came from a 2100 too so..... ins wasn't soo kind to me either actually.. So the real question is what goes 90+ and handles big nasty chop, is fun, practical, not $50K, jumps waves, etc????

I'd LOOOVE a Tuff21!!! But they're $50K+ too... :shakehead: A 21' Superboat has crossed my mind... ahh I dunno.
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Wave Jumping forget the Lib It sounds like you get your monies worth. If you get Jup's boat the 300xs will get you there for under 27k in my opinion and it will do whatever a simon motor will do with a good 2 year warrantee.
There is a Superboat on S&F (M Ragu) that has been completely redone. Mike comes from a group of guys on Long Island that are as good as it gets with all boats!!! Call him. The 21 Super boat will handle the rough stuff -- put you at 90 I believe he is asking mid 20's for the boat.
As far as tuff progression and Superboat - They are custom built for you -- You tell tem what you wanna do and they build it. Dats the good news!! The bad is there 21 and 22 will cost ya 75k when all is said and done.
I have a closed deck-- without bad mouthing the 21 bow rider it is a remarkable boat it truly runs 85 to 90 all day long it WILL run over 90 with little effort.
Getting a good wheel and finding someone that knows his chit to work a four blade for you will put the boat over 90 for sure!!
As far as looks -- Hands down the 21 an 24 pulsares are the best looking boats out there. There Gel coat work and paint schemes blow away anything that the custom boys are doing.
Bee I have run alot of boats -- bigger and smaller -- This 21 for overall cost is the real deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
 
Ebay 2400

I love that 2400 at Diamond. Have been looking at the add for over a year before I bought mine. The same 2400s that were for sale a year ago are still for sale, as far as I can tell. At some point this year the dealers are going to turn them loose at whatever the market will bear.


You'll go slower on a 2400 but when you are running 40 in a chop, you won't care that the top end is slower, especially since you run in some big waters in Fla.
 
The boat at Diamond Marine In Conn. has been around for a while it is a 2008 with the old stly interior if you could live with that the boat can be bought for 47k -- Remember --stock guages -- factory set up so to make the boat right to run the 75 to 77, you will still have work to do. The best buy on there is the brx which can be bought for 52k at that price 70 to 72 for a family performance boat -- Ain't bad -- And the boat is loaded!!:thumb:
 
Badbk- 21Supers have more deadrise than a 2100 pulsare- 21* vs 19* for the mate. The superboat is also lighter by a bit. I think that looks is in the eye of the beholder, but for gelwork- checkmate wins hands down! Nothing I've seen on superboats comes close... but I sure love how the supers look. They are imo as tough as they come... the 21ob models will need tiebars, or knees installed to go jumping waves. All of the used ones I've seen already have one or the other... these guys run them hard around L.I.

Mragu's boat is the nicest one thats for sale right now- I came really close to buying it when I was looking. I stumbled across my 21 i/o and went that route instead. His is better than new! He built in knees when it was getting worked on so no need for tiebars. Paintwork is really great looking (imron). If you put a 300xs on it it should run well into the 90s all day with that kind of power- I'd think. I'm sure you have seen the thread in classifieds on S&F.

I think that if you can live with mid to upper 70s, a Pulsare 2400ld or a 24 Superboat would be great choices- if you're thinking about a bigger boat. Both of these boats would be a ton of fun in the rough. I know that you boat in salt? , so I figure you want to stick with a outboard, correct?
 
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The 24 in Conn can be bought for under 47K...

I have seen Mragu's boat, looks very nice. Just sucks it's so far away, I want to take whatever I'm thinking about buying for an extensive beat run... I'd only get the 24' if the price is right.
 
Too far- what!!!! no such thing... I went to cali for my 21.

I don't blame you on wanting a sea trial, but I'd think that you could negotiate a demo ride with Randy in a 2400. I'm sure that you could find a willing owner of a 21super to give you a ride, too. Mragu's boat currently has no power, but I don't think that he would steer you wrong- or overstate its capabilities. The only boat I ever trailed was the checkmate- I had confidence that the Superboats would do everthing I wanted them to without any problems- I talked to alot of owners before I bought either of them and had confidence they'd work for what I was wanting.
 
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Too far- what!!!! no such thing... I went to cali for my 21.

I don't blame you on wanting a sea trial, but I'd think that you could negotiate a demo ride with Randy in a 2400. I'm sure that you could find a willing owner of a 21super to give you a ride, too. Mragu's boat currently has no power, but I don't think that he would steer you wrong- or overstate its capabilities. The only boat I ever trailed was the checkmate- I had confidence that the Superboats would do everthing I wanted them to without any problems- I talked to alot of owners before I bought either of them and had confidence they'd work for what I was wanting.
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So you think it is fair to ask a dealer who sells the same product he interested in buying, take the risk of damaging it, and give a demo ride even though he has no intention of buying a boat from him?

Sir you have just defined a new level for the term "He's got balls!!":shakehead:
 
Sorry Mike, the derail has gotten waaaayyy off track... I'll start a diff thread...

xsive-simma down, I wouldn't even ask Randy for a demo unless I was gonna buy from him, or he offered ;-) Besides DoubleJ? has one right down the road I'm sure he'd be more than happy to go out for a day n drink a case of beer!
 
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Sorry Mike, the derail has gotten waaaayyy off track... I'll start a diff thread...

xsive-simma down, I wouldn't even ask Randy for a demo unless I was gonna buy from him, or he offered ;-) Besides DoubleJ? has one right down the road I'm sure he'd be more than happy to go out for a day n drink a case of beer!
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It's OK BK I wasn't insinating that YOU would.

A dealership that I worked at in the late 80's had a guy do that. Made a deal at another local dealer on a boat that wasn't rigged but wanted a ride before handin over $$$. Had the same boat at the dealership where I worked rigged. He came in played the salesman, went for a test drive, thenm said thanks and left. My buddy who was the service manager at the other dealer told me how he came in bragging about it.
 
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So you think it is fair to ask a dealer who sells the same product he interested in buying, take the risk of damaging it, and give a demo ride even though he has no intention of buying a boat from him?

Sir you have just defined a new level for the term "He's got balls!!":shakehead:
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I'd say you're right about that, never even considerd it that way...My bad.

Point taken.

Don't know if Checkmate ever gives demos around your area, but they do around here... I've never been on one.

I worked as a car salesman for a short while- never got pissed if I showed a car to someone and they went elsewhere, I'll say that boats are different and more of a liability to show.

Just was throwing an idea out there... didn't realize it was going to piss someone off.

Also, I figured it'd cost something- why I put "negotatiate a ride"
 
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Besides DoubleJ? has one right down the road I'm sure he'd be more than happy to go out for a day n drink a case of beer!
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What just a case????????? ....lol....I'm always game for a day of fun...............if it just warm up some
 
I could be wrong, but I think the nature of the closed bow Pulsare 2100 is stiffer than an open bow boat and will flex much less when wave jumping. My boat in particular is built (internally) much better than a stock Pulsare. The stringers are Mantex, the outboard stringer supports are mantex, the fuel tank is sealed in a closed cell foamed-in box, the floor is double glassed and is a solid sheet gunnel to gunnel, aluminum plates are glassed into the floor under the seat pedestals, and the underside of the floor is glassed to the bulkheads/stringers through the infloor ski locker. No foam under the floor to absorb water and the boat is probably lighter by 200 pounds...I'm sure a 300x or xs would get the boat into the low/mid 90's all day long!!! It has been gps'd at 77.0 with a full tank of gas, cooler, two adults and a bone stock 225 "fishin mota"!!:D She's also come face to face with a 6' tall breaking ground swell wave off of Hobe Sound...talk about wave jumping!!!!!:eek: For anyone interested, the boat can be bought for $12500 complete or $8500 without the motor. To the original poster, as already stated, a clever prop would not be good for the Pulsare. I've had very good luck running a Quicksilver DAH chopper 26 and a Trophy Plus 26 on my Pulsare. The Trophy Plus 26 is a great all around prop...it pulls strong, stays on plane at lower speeds, and puts me into the mid 70's all day long!
 
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