Stuck with the wrong trailer.

[topgun]

This goes to show how much of a noob I still am. As some of you here already know, I boat an old slick craft boat just for the EZ loader roller trailer it sits on . The slick craft is 19 ft and mt persuader is 22ft. Actually 20 ft without swim platform. my problem is that I think the trailer is a little to small for my check. I would think a 19ft boat would be the max. I can get her on there by moving the winch tower forward but it just seems like a tight fit. I don't know else to do except put her on it . her current trailer is trash and if I want to go anywhere besides or hometown lake im going to have to use the roller. Can spend 2grand on a new c-hawk right now unless some one here wants to take it of my hands. The trailer is only about a foot shorter than the one shes on now. Feel like a complete amateur. Doy!
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[keith4216]

Change it over to bunks and make the bunks the size you need?

 

[SippyRat]

x2 on the bunks. in addition you could also buy a swing away tongue coupler and two or three feet stock to lengthen the tongue. then you can move your tower further forward.

 

[Jimway]

Would it be possible to extend tongue, ( EZ Loaders usually bolt together) to come up with some extra room. Do check the trailers weight capacity. I like Keith's idea of some bunk mounts. You might have some hull over the end of the trailer but still supported by the bunks. You should be able to move axle/axles forward or rearward to balance load and tongue weight. U-bolt hardware is pretty easy and inexpensive to acquire if you inadvertantly break some in disassembley.

 

[SippyRat]

easier to solve a problem if we can see it

 

[topgun]

here ya go.

 

[Heavy Handed]

You should easily be able to adjust things to make that work. Bunks would be a bonus.

 

[topgun]

so here are the measurements. the c-hawk is 21 ft 6in long measured from rear crossmember to the end of the tongue. the ez loader is 20 ft 3 in. The c-hawk is noticeably narrower between the fenders and the ez is measured at 76in. The actual width at the rear of the trailers is 73in on the c-hawk and 70 and one half inches. So it seems to me this trailer is big enough even though I will have to add at least a foot to the length. Any suggestion on converting to bunks? I am taking the advice of this forum and not risk my hull with the rollers. I just don't have the loot to buy a new c-hawk which is what I would get if going new. Thanks to you guys who have chimed in so far.

 

[jumbofordman]

I think your problem is going to be the bottom hitting on the front crossmember. Notice the V on the C-Hawk starts a lot more far forward.

 

[SippyRat]

I think it would be fairly easy to get that trailer to work. you shouldn't need to add any to the rear but after its all set up (bunks & tower) you may need to add to the tongue which I described earlier.

bunk mounts: you should be able to take all of your measurements from the c hawk to get them in the correct location & height on the new trailer. you may even be able to use the existing roller mounts by removing the roller bar, it looks like you could possibly flip the mounts upside down, rotate 90* and bolt them to the cross member. that would give a solid mount with four holes to lag to the bunk. the front mounts may be too short depending on what height you need.

bunks: 2x6 carpeted green treated or sealed non treated should be fine. you want them long enough to support the entire transom. I like one to two inches past the transom. don't just lag through all of the brackets and set the boat. the bunk will not hug the hull this way. I like to lag only the rear and then set the boat. this allows the bunk to flex and take the shape of the hull. then you can lag through the rest of the mounts.

carpet: most big hardware stores carry a rubber backed thin pile outdoor carpet that works great for bunks. use stainless staples and lags. if you don't have one I suggest buying an electric stapler ($30-$40) they are slick for many jobs around the house.

 

[topgun]

Thanks Sip, that info is a great start. It sure is true what they say about the checkmate crowd. Hey sip I owe ya a six pack of twisted tea.
Also should I try replicating it the four bunks like the c-hawk or would I be ok with just two?

 

[SippyRat]

Also should I try replicating it the four bunks like the c-hawk or would I be ok with just two?

I would give the hull as much support as you can. by the way how bad is the c hawk? I remember you mentioning a bad cross member but that's about it. is it possible to have a welder repair the trailer or is it too far gone?

 

[JT Patroni]

After looking at the tower location on the EZ you can certainly move it forward to where the jack stand now is and move the jackstand forward.

The height of the bunks can be adjusted to make sure the hull doesn't hit the cross member that the tongue attaches to.

The axle can be moved to balance the weight to get the necessary 10%
on the hitch.

 

[topgun]

I would give the hull as much support as you can. by the way how bad is the c hawk? I remember you mentioning a bad cross member but that's about it. is it possible to have a welder repair the trailer or is it too far gone?

The rear cross member is gone. Plus I would say at least
A foot of the frame rails need to be replace. And then there is the axle with it positioning the wheels with extreme camber. I'd say its toast .
It is a really well built trailer though.

 

[topgun]

After looking at the tower location on the EZ you can certainly move it forward to where the jack stand now is and move the jackstand forward.

The height of the bunks can be adjusted to make sure the hull doesn't hit the cross member that the tongue attaches to.

The axle can be moved to balance the weight to get the necessary 10%
on the hitch.

I am thinking that if I set the boat back just a few inches and raise the bunks
In the front like you said to clear the front crossmember I am not sure if moving the axle would be nesassary. What do you think? I would still lenghten the front rail but I don't think it would be all that critical. We'll see.

 

[Problem Child]

Hey Rich , is your Persuader light enough for a single axle. I was thinking the 219s sit on dual axles. I could be way off on this just thinking out loud. I was thinking maybe the camber on your existing trailer may be from to much boat. What do the other 219s use. My boat seems to be a load on my dual axle.

 

[kenellefsen]

Trailer

Let me know what you want for the trailer if you get disgusted. I need one for my 19 ft Pulse. Thanks Ken

 

[topgun]

Hey Rich , is your Persuader light enough for a single axle. I was thinking the 219s sit on dual axles. I could be way off on this just thinking out loud. I was thinking maybe the camber on your existing trailer may be from to much boat. What do the other 219s use. My boat seems to be a load on my dual axle.

You know something? That is something that should of accured to me sooner. The trailer is the original so I guess I assumed it is rated for it.
I just check the tag and the rating is 2730. Gotta look up the weight of the persuader. This could just change my whole strategy.
The persuader weighs in at around 2800 pounds. So I think you are right. Her butt is to heavy for this trailer.

 

[Problem Child]

You may be able to use what you have but with fuel and beer I mean gear, will def be pushing the limits. A new pair of springs might be the ticket for a cheap fix. I just don't remember seeing a 219 with a single. With all the hard work you have been cranking out I hope you are out boating this weekend. Enjoy it .

 

[topgun]

I am planning on next friday as my coming out. I will use the old trailer for that since the lake is only a couple of miles away. But if i want to go anywhere else, Converting the ezloader is my only option right now. Then When she is finally off the C-hawk I will take a grinder and hammer and drill and give it a good looking over and finally decide weather to repair or not. Right now it looks like a rear crossmember, About a foot or so of the framerails and axle which I can heat with a torch and straighten the camber or replace if cost effective. As bad as it looks now I am sure I can repair for way less than buying a new one. We'll see. what the rest looks like. sorry for the back and forth guys. know it looks like this guy cant make up his mind. Its just my way.