100+ MPH CHECKMATES 100+ SPEED (Nominations)

[ezstriper]

Ummmm maybe we should do 540's at forty paces !!!!!

 

[msmile]

I don't know where this uncle's cousin's friend stuff comes from. I personally know this guy/boat, that is, 1st hand knowledge. As for heresay, again, the gps says what it says, on more than one occasion. Do you accept eye witness testimony with gps back up? I assume gps is the preferred method of clocking because its easy. (electric eye would be more accurate). I owned a radar gun and they're a joke. Not accurate and dangerous. I was radaring a skater once at 121, he came so close he got my leg wet. So much for the gun. It is currently at the bottom of the lake by way of a mishap.

I clearly stated my reasons for limiting names and gave a clear 1st hand testimony with gps back-up. Your response says something about your charecter and ego. Utimately, its not really about how fast a boat is or is not, its about charecter and ego. Putting the best construction on everything and verifying if the skeptic desires. Sometimes (?) we fall short, there is truly nothing new under the sun.

We can make this thread alot shorter. I won't budge from my claim (because I was there) and you won't budge from your skepticism. Let the egos roll. Simple as that.

 

[hotdaddy27]

First bucket is empty so I will renew....

 

[Big Red]

Being you know the guy and have seen the boat in person. Can you atleast tell us what year and model the Checkmate is ????

For my character i am a A-HOLE and I don't care who I piss off and I will not bite my tongue I speak whats on my mind or whats the truth. Never thought about my ego just trying to keep a thread honest.

 

[Big Red]

Msmile

You seem to be the only guy that talks about this boat I have read boat site after boat site to get some kind of grip on this boat. And the only thing I have found so far are your post's

Post by you


1-19-09
As I've posted before; there was a 18 foot checkmate with a blown 540+ cubic inch (not a 572) with a mercruiser twin prop counter rotating surface drive. It ran 116 on the gps. That's getting it for a 18 foot boat. I don't know the boost or size of the blower. 250+ hp in nitrous too.


6-30-08
I'm an outboard guy but the fastest sub 20 checkmate would be an i/o. There is no replacement for displacement. Phrased another way: There's only one thing better than cubes...and that's more cubes. Local guy had a 19 or 20 foot checkmate w/ roughly a blown 750 hp. Blackhawk drive Mercruiser. The thing went 115ish, no joke. 102ish w/ same motor naturally aspirated. He never got the nitrous hooked up.


1-24-06
I've mentioned this before, a guy in omaha with a 19' checkmate, bbc, blower, nitrous, and a blackhawk ran 116 on the gps.


4-30-05
18-19 foot checkmate io in Omaha ran 116 on the GPS. A 20-21 checkmate io ran 101-3 ish too. As for hp and barn doors...speed is speed is speed.


1-13-03

I have a buddy with a 15+ year old 19 ft checkmate. He got it on a wednesday last august and ran it in a local shootout that weekend. In the 4 days he pulled the motor and drive and slipped on his blackhawk and mill. 107 on the gun! Yikes. Downside- parts avail.(including props), handling (terrible around the docks) and down time. Discontinued and not many people have messed with them


What I would really like to know what story are you sticking with


102 ish
107
115 ish
116


Boat size



18'
19'
20'

Does he or does he not use nitrous

And 1 more thing you posted 6-30-08 that it ran 102 ish naturally aspirated. When in 2003 it ran 107 and in 2005 it ran 116 what did he do take the huffer off for one pass then stick it back on for the second pass.

 

[CHECK16]

I don't know where this uncle's cousin's friend stuff comes from. I personally know this guy/boat, that is, 1st hand knowledge. As for heresay, again, the gps says what it says, on more than one occasion. Do you accept eye witness testimony with gps back up? I assume gps is the preferred method of clocking because its easy. (electric eye would be more accurate). I owned a radar gun and they're a joke. Not accurate and dangerous. I was radaring a skater once at 121, he came so close he got my leg wet. So much for the gun. It is currently at the bottom of the lake by way of a mishap.

I clearly stated my reasons for limiting names and gave a clear 1st hand testimony with gps back-up. Your response says something about your charecter and ego. Utimately, its not really about how fast a boat is or is not, its about charecter and ego. Putting the best construction on everything and verifying if the skeptic desires. Sometimes (?) we fall short, there is truly nothing new under the sun.

We can make this thread alot shorter. I won't budge from my claim (because I was there) and you won't budge from your skepticism. Let the egos roll. Simple as that.

msmile,Enough already!!Put up or shut up

 

[msmile]

You should have spent your time researching the boat. Again, putting the worst construction on everything addresses character. Impune, impune, impune.

It was a 84 Mate, closed bow, between 18-19'. Owner didn't know model and didn't care. He thought was 18'9". My previous statements are correct.

It was blue w/ silver w/ 260 Alpha Drive in original form.

Motor was a 540, 30 over, calcuates to ? 548? 540+ just as I said.

Nitrous was on the boat and availible, as all his boats, but not used. Technically, my statement is correct.

The blower was a B&M 420 Mega Blower, which was on and off the boat. My statements are correct.

Owner est. hp @ 650 Naturally aspirated and 750-850ish w/ blower.

Boat ran 102, natually aspirated at the Cottonwood Marina Shootout. I guess there's a pic and some ink of the event: omahariverfront.com, archives, Cottonwood. I'll see if I can find it.

Interesting note, at power the gunnells (where the shifter is) would move up and down 4-6 inches. That's cajones!

The 116 claim stands. (w/ blower)

I did screw up on the bravo claim. I said the rig was 10 or so slower. The correction is the natually aspirated version was a good ten+ slower but used half the gas. The bravo was slower yet but accelerated better, handled poorly.

 

[CHECK16]

WOW!! Something stinks.
In post #17 msmile said "I don't know the boost or size of the blower." But in his last post it seems his memory is coming back.
You would think we could at least get a pic.

 

[hotdaddy27]

This may help.....

OmahaRiverFront.com - RIVER NEWS

Cottonwood Marina 2002 Missouri River Shoot-Out boat races and results

Nancy NeurohrOmahaRiverFront.com

published: 9/25/2002

he 'Missouri River Shoot-Out 2002' was held on Saturday, September 21st at the Cottonwood Marina in Blair, NE. This was the first time this event had been held since 1996. Click HERE to view a slideshow of the boat races.

More than 2000 people turned out on the banks of the Missouri River at Cottonwood Marina to watch this year's 'Race Against Time'

Although the weather was a bit chilly, no one really seemed to mind too much as the crowd of over 2,000 spectators stood on the river bank to watch some of the fastest boats in the area compete for the Race Against Time. A total of 65 boats were entered, many of which came from as far away as Kansas, Missouri, South Dakota & Arizona.
The boats were divided into classes determined by their hull type, length, engine classification & number of engines. Each driver started down the 1/2 mile course and passed through a radar trap where their speed was recorded as their score. Awards were presented to the top 3 participants in each class.
In memory of Bernie Balkus

Race day was sadly memorialized by being dedicated to the memory of our friend Bernie Balkus who lost his life on the job in a train accident only days before the racing event was held.

After a memorial 'Cottonwood Flyby' ride with Bernie's Challenger, the memorial ceremonies included dedication of all subsequent boat races to be named the annual "Bernie Balkus Memorial Missouri River Shoot-Out" boat races.

Bernie was eagerly looking forward to racing his powerboat in the then upcoming shoot-out Bernie was a true dedicated boater and, if we may say so, a local river boating icon. For so many boating summer weekends up to, and including the present, you could always catch a glimpse of his long sleek "Roadrunner" 1999 Challenger Offshore powerboat splitting the silence and making way out on the river. You'd have seen a big suntanned Bernie with his wide toothy mustached smile fumbling with a drink as he wrestled the helm with his blonde best friend and wife Sheri in the bolster-seat beside him holding onto her hairdo. In the back there would always be family or friends. The last thing you see, of course, is a trailing wake of foam behind the stern and Bernie's trademark - a skyward spouting "rooster tail".
He was usually found boating anywhere between Sandpiper and Cottonwood Marina - out there on the Missouri River he loved and lived on. He was known and loved by so many people and will be remembered by us forever as this event will now be known as the 'Bernie Balkus Memorial Missouri River Shoot-Out'.
<DIV align=center>Cottonwood 2002 Missouri River Shoot-Out 2-STROKE JET BOATS
1st - Jim Barrett (61.0 mph) 2002 Sugar Sands, Woodbine, IA
2nd - Dan Burt (58.4 mph) 1998 Yamaha, Omaha, NE
3rd - Greg Dorling (55.1 mph) 1999 Sugar Sands, Omaha, NE
POWDER PUFF
1st - Bev Bolen (78.6 mph) 1987 Sea Ray, Fort Calhoun, NE
2nd - Julie Bond (75.9 mph) 1999 Active Thunder, Lawrence, KS
3rd - Cyndi O'Brien (62.8 mph) 1994 Checkmate, Linwood, KS
V-HULL OUTBOARD - STOCK
1st - James Rathbun (71.7 mph) 1983 Baja, Omaha, NE
2nd - Alan Sorenson (66.5 mph) 1988 Hydro-Stream, Omaha, NE
V-HULL OUTBOARD FACTORY HIGH PERFORMANCE
1st - Aaron Drop (103.7 mph) 1999 Allison, Omaha, NE
2nd - Kase Allison (100.5 mph) 1998 Allison, Vermillion, SD
V-HULL FACTORY MODIFIED 18-22FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Jerry Bolen (79.4 mph) 1987 Sea Ray, Fort Calhoun, NE
2nd - Wade Culver (59.9 mph) 1974 Taylor, Red Oak, IA
V-HULL POWER-ADDED 18-22FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Brian Hennings (96.9 mph) 1993 Checkmate, LaVista, NE
2nd - Rob Tanner (79.1 mph) 1980 Conquest, Omaha, NE
V-HULL CUSTOM MODIFIED 18-22FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Ed Guyett (102.0 mph) Omaha, NE
1st - Matt Kaiser (87.5 mph) 1975 Diamond, Carter Lake, IA
2nd - Gary McConnell (69.4 mph) Council Bluffs, IA
V-HULL STOCK 18-22FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Brian Schroeder (62.8 mph) 1994 Stingray, Council Bluffs, IA
2nd - Rod Pollard (61.4 mph) 2000 Crownline, Elkhorn, NE
3rd - Donald Bird (60.4 mph) 2001 Rinker, Omaha, NE
V-HULL FACTORY MODIFIED 22-26FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Mike Gordon (79.3 mph) Team "One Vision" 1999 Active Thunder, Shawnee, KS
V-HULL POWER-ADDED 22-26FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Brad Hamm (88.2 mph) 1999 DCB, Perry, KS
2nd - Matt Schnorr (86.1 mph) 1996 Eliminator, Tucson, AZ
3rd - Mike Jensen (81.5 mph) 1998 Baja
V-HULL STOCK 22-26FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Terry Longwell (75.0 mph) 2001 Eliminator Eagle XP, Omaha, NE
2nd - Kevin Alff (68.8 mph) 2001 Baja, Omaha, NE
3rd - Robert Buscher Jr. (61.8 mph) 1994 Formula, Elkhorn, NE
V-HULL STOCK 22-26FT, TWIN ENGINES
1st - Gary Shipley (63.9 mph) 1986 IMP, Omaha, NE
V-HULL STOCK 26-30FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Chuck Sorenson (72.5 mph) 2001 Eliminator Eagle XP, Omaha, NE
2nd - John Wooden (71.5 mph) 2001 Fountain, Omaha, NE
3rd - Jim Goc (70.1 mph) 2002 Sunsation, Omaha, NE
V-HULL POWER-ADDED 26-30FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Rick Schultz (83.6 mph) 2000 Donzi, Omaha, NE
2nd - Kelly Waggoner (78.5 mph) 1998 Donzi, Omaha, NE
V-HULL POWER-ADDED 26-30FT, TWIN ENGINES
1st - Dan Schroedter (80.9 mph) 1992 Formula, Fremont, NE
V-HULL CUSTOM MODIFIED 26-30FT, SINGLE ENGINE
1st - Jonny Monson (71.9 mph) 1997 Magic Offshore
V-HULL CUSTOM MODIFIED 26-30FT, TWIN ENGINES
1st - Bob Pulte (85.2 mph) 1989 Baja, Omaha, NE
V-HULL FACTORY MODIFIED 26-30FT, TWIN ENGINES
1st - Mike MacFarlane (65.7 mph) 1982 Cris Craft, Louisville, NE
V-HULL STOCK 30-34FT, TWIN ENGINES
1st - Kevin Turner (73.3 mph) 1997 Baja, Council Bluffs, IA
2nd - Dan Young (6? mph) 1987 Sea Ray Pachanga
V-HULL POWER-ADDED 34-38FT, TWIN ENGINES
1st - Rod Hamm (93.7 mph) 1995 Fountain, Lawrence, KS
V-HULL STOCK 34-38FT, TWIN ENGINES
1st - Mike Jansen (46.4 mph) 1995 Sea Ray, Omaha, NE
V-HULL STOCK 38+FT, TRIPLE ENGINES
1st - Rick Kuhlman (71.1 mph) 1994 Fountain, Nebraska City, NE
CATAMARAN POWER-ADDED 22-26FT SINGLE ENGINE
<B>

I assume that msmile's friend is the guy from Omaha at 102MPH. The 1993 Checkmate runs quite a respectable speed as well.

I only wish that his friend listed the type of boat that he ran at 102MPH! Gotta represent if it is a Checkmate!

 

[CHECK16]

Thanks HD. I also researched it,but only went back to 2003.If that is the guy a pic would be nice.

 

[Big Red]

Being msmile will make us do his research this is what I found. Is this the boat or not "MSMILE"

OMAHA, Neb. --

Edward Guyett, facing criminal manslaughter charges in a boating death this spring, has been released without bond after a hearing today.

Guyett turned himself in Wednesday.

Investigators say Guyett was driving his boat (pictured, right) at 116 mph May 31 when his friend, Bruce Turner was thrown from the watercraft and died.

Turner's body was found four days later.

 

[Big Red]

I just got the info in to confirm the next 100+ boat for are thread and you will not belive this. I heard Kunkels's may have had their hands under the engine hatch.

The owners name is Jack

 

[Big Red]

I am glad to add a O/B to are thread

Owner Benjie Chapman It's a 77' V-mate I,

 

[hotdaddy27]

Sorry to see the end result of such a fast Checkmate MSMILE. I was kind of hoping that the "Shootout" info. would be enough....

On a brighter note, I can't imagine being strapped into that little V-Mate @ 100+!!!!!

That is one sick ride!!!

 

[ezstriper]

that is very sad....thanks red for your investigating....on all of these....also as I said before, my hats off to that guy....just wished he'd put all that power in a larger hull.....would have been just as fast and hopefully safer. Now that 251 that ran 114 I feel was a fluke....all the planets were aligned and everything went just right...because other attempts have not worked out, he has a buddy running a 251 also that runs at the radar run that has been the boat to watch the last 3 years....scary is a understatement !!! he's crashed twice(not really), just has not hit the water. This past year we all thought it was over this time....but his luck prevailed..so any waylove to hear/see these fast boats...but stories like the one from nebraska kinda sets you back a few steps....maybe it's just me....Rob

 

[msmile]

Hdaddy-Thanks for the research. That same engine went into a 1000# heavier Eliminator 22 daytona and ran the same speeds. The other checkmate (21) on your listing would run 102-3ish. The owner's name was Larry and he sold it to the guy listed (I thinK) whom I don't don't know. I raced Larry with that boat a couple times and it was a legit 102-3 boat. I have zero idea what Larry ran for a set-up. All I know is he ran neck and neck with an Allison BassBoat / 2.4 Bridgeport. Keep in mind the speeds at the shootout are not optimal due to boat traffic, etc (especially hard for smaller boats). The Allison listed at 103+ was blown off by this first checkmate I've been referring to.

BRed-I mispelled impugn but it still applies. Character, honor, ego. Yes, you have your pic. Too bad its not on the water. The Checkmate has since been parted out. You questioned whether the rig ran 102, 115ish, 116, etc. The answer is yes, all the above. If the rig was run with three different motors, two different drives, different props, different pulleys (blower),--it would stand to reason the rig ran different top end numbers. Its called dialing in the set-up. For what its worth, the accident did not take place at wot, probably 70-80 mph. Rogue wave. Been there, done that, I've got 5 days in the ICU to prove it.

 

[Big Red]

BRed-I mispelled impugn but it still applies. Character, honor, ego. Yes, you have your pic.

Yes I will agree with you calling me "impugn" but as stated in my first post of this thread.

Please do not post any here-say photos of boats that may have ran over 100. If you post a pic of a boat that runs over 100 you better have proof threw links to other sites if you are questioned.

You provided no info on the boat or links talking about the boat. You made me and others research your boat for you to end all this crap. You could not even tell me what make the boat was. Anybody else that post mystery boats here in this thread will get the same treatment as you instigated on yourself. I am just trying to cut out BS claims on fast boats and if you cant understand this you are the one with the ego problem.

Yes your claim of this boat running 100+ is granted. A better pic of the boat would be nice if anybody can dig one up.

 

[hotdaddy27]

We should ask Chris to delete all the posts between when MSMILE makes the claim and when we find the results of the "shootout" to keep the thread on track (and less ugly).

It is a damn good thread, the BS kind of dilutes it.

JMO.

HD

 

[JUPITER PULSARE]

Ok guys, I've sat back and watched this thread for a while, eating and enjoying a Captain & Coke and it dawned on me that this thread was starting to sound like the B.S. you hear on Scream & Fly. You guys need to pull the plug on this one and get back to the original post...Pictures of Checkmate that go 100MPH+. I don't care to read all the bickering, heresay, and bs. I want to see the hardware, rigging, hulls and talent that make Checkmates one of the best boats out there!!

 

[ezstriper]

well if we did not go thru the B/S and reds research we would not have gotten to the info on that boat...I think he deserves a thanks....and a lot of this post came down to proof..even the 251 I talked about I did not have much on...had a pic though...and just goes to show...how few have hit that mark....I thought this was great ! Rob