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1970 Checkmate MX-14

Well he lives about 1.5-2.0 hours away up in Wisconsin and tomorrow he is driving here and has both engines on a mount on his trailer where he can back them in the water and run both engines, and even put them in gear and put them to half throttle. He has had one for like 10 years, and just got the other recently and has a lot of projects and needs some money.

The way I looked at it, if both have good compression and one of the lower units is fine, than its worth the $1000 for me to take them apart and swap parts if necessary. As nice as it would to have a nice newer engine, I'm not sure if I could work on them. I know that many people say to stay away from the oil injection.

What would you suggest for engine hp?

Your fine with a 100 hp Motor on a 14 ft boat .
 
Alright I don't know if I did well or not with this deal, but this morning I bought both of those engines for a total of $1000. Both engines have compression within 3 psi of the other cylinders. I will have more accurate compression measurements later. The average is about 120 or 121. The guy was able to back his trailer in with the running engine into the water on the boat ramp, and run it. It does not look like it has enough water coming out. When we pulled it back out, and took the lower unit plug out, there was no o ring on the plug, and the oil was chocolate brown. However, the other engine that is stuck in gear has perfect dark blue lower unit oil, and has that awful smell. He says it has a new impeller.

I'm going to go out and take some pictures of both engines later and post them. The one with thats stuck in gear has an "SS" symbol on the cowling and on the front side of the top cover. The other engine does not. What does that mean?

This was the mount he had the engine on.
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We were able to use his crane thing to put one engine on the checkmate
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Alright I don't know if I did well or not with this deal, but this morning I bought both of those engines for a total of $1000. Both engines have compression within 3 psi of the other cylinders. I will have more accurate compression measurements later. The average is about 120 or 121. The guy was able to back his trailer in with the running engine into the water on the boat ramp, and run it. It does not look like it has enough water coming out. When we pulled it back out, and took the lower unit plug out, there was no o ring on the plug, and the oil was chocolate brown. However, the other engine that is stuck in gear has perfect dark blue lower unit oil, and has that awful smell. He says it has a new impeller.

I'm going to go out and take some pictures of both engines later and post them. The one with thats stuck in gear has an "SS" symbol on the cowling and on the front side of the top cover. The other engine does not. What does that mean?

This was the mount he had the engine on.
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We were able to use his crane thing to put one engine on the checkmate
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Boat looks better already with a Merc on the back . It that guy has pulled the lower unit to change the impeller its very possible the lower shift shaft is 180 out ...
 
Yeah I'd say it looks a lot better!
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I also got two sets of controls. One is complete (RED), with the wiring harness, shift and throttle cables, rpm wires, and battery hook ups. The other one (BLUE) has the plug end cut off, but still has cables for throttle and shift, rpm wires, and even tilt controls.

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OK here's engine #1. The number is: 2684127. So I'm guessing 1969. This is the one that I saw running and has the lower unit oil problems (chocolate milk color, leaks). It also needs a new impeller, as it doesn't seem to have the right amount of water coming out. Compression is as follows: 1=120, 2= 120, 3= 119, 4=121, 5=117, 6=118.

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Engine #2. #2320776, so maybe 1968. This is the one that is stuck in gear, but has a good lower unit in terms of oil, and is supposed to have a new impeller. Compression: 1=120, 2=119, 3=120, 4=121, 5=121, 6=121. This is the one with those ss symbols. Keep in mind these compression tests were taken with a $45 dollar compression tester from O'Reilly. I think my plan is to use this engine, and fix the lower unit shifting issue.

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Both engines have the emergency pull start ropes.
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Looks good . Were the compression checks done after the motor has warmed up ???

The compression check for engine #1 was done before it was run. He did not run engine #2. He said it was cold blooded or something. #2 was the one laying on its side on his trailer, not on the back like the other one.
 
The compression check for engine #1 was done before it was run. He did not run engine #2. He said it was cold blooded or something. #2 was the one laying on its side on his trailer, not on the back like the other one.

The one that was run . When you can fire it back up and run for about 15 minutes or so and than check it . It should come up some. Now him saying its cold blooded that's crap lol.
 
The one that was run . When you can fire it back up and run for about 15 minutes or so and than check it . It should come up some. Now him saying its cold blooded that's crap lol.

Well the one that was running is still leaking oil now out of the plug. I'd like to get both running and then compare their compression. That way I know which engine/power-head to use.
 
Sure looks nice onthe back of your boat.:thumb:

Love the Red band Mercs.

I had smaller motor, MERC 20 with 120psi and it ran perfect, could not notice anything negitive about the motor.

The main key is as you know, there close to each other in psi.:D

Happy boating
 
The compression check for engine #1 was done before it was run. He did not run engine #2. He said it was cold blooded or something. #2 was the one laying on its side on his trailer, not on the back like the other one.


GOOD news my friend! after running 40:1 fuel throught the motor and its warn from running the compression will go up for sure.:thumb:
 
The one that was run . When you can fire it back up and run for about 15 minutes or so and than check it . It should come up some. Now him saying its cold blooded that's crap lol.

Do I need to run it on the boat like on plane and have a load? Or is it fine to have it idle and maybe rev up a few times? I'm asking because I have an idea to run them in trash cans and then take a compression test. I would take the one stuck in gear and take the prop off first. I don't need to get soaked. :D
 
Do you think I could disconnect the shifter cable so it doesn't go into gear and run the engine #1 in a trash can even though we drained a little lower unit oil?
 
I just thought if it has not ran in years the extra oil would not hurt.

Yes, just take that prop off and lets fine out the compression then why don`t you drop the lower unit and check if its out 180 like Will said and then you can see if the shift rod with turn at the same time.
 
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