Saw this on the OSO beautiful 30!!

[Check This]

check the price on a 1000hp bbc.....

The weight of trips would be very limiting, but I'd take 3 bone stock 300XS's over a 1000hp built turbo/blown mota anyday of the week as far as efficiency/maintenance/upkeep are concerned.

The sound of the bbc would drop panties for 50 miles though

Mercury racing builds a 1050 mota -- And it has a warantee!!-- take any boat!!! And you know I am an outboard guy The big boy would eat those outboards for lunch!! Sorry kid I love the Weed Wackers but does big boys!!! They are Daady's (Quoting a famous baseball pitcher)

As far a price when you running like dat -- You ain't worried about price take my word for it!!

 

[Old Navy]

Merc Racing 1075 SCI..When only the best will do!

 

[lcboater]

now that's what i'm talkin' 'bout!!!! wouldn't one of those in a 300 be sweet?

 

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Merc Racing 1075 SCI..When only the best will do!

Now Dats the Boss!1

 

[ndaniels]

Some good outboard prices: http://www.jacosmarine.com/
(300xs $15895)

 

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Some good outboard prices: http://www.jacosmarine.com/
(300xs $15895)

What ever they sell -- They give a great price!! I have bought two props from them and they were great!!!

 

[SCT]

No offense but if you are buying a Merc 1075 SCI....you are probably not buying a Checkmate to put it in.....

Back to the origional question- I don't think 51K asking price is a crazy price for a very clean 2000 30' w/ alot of upgrades. I doubt if it sells tomorrow at that price and in this market but I would pay for a nice clean boat vs a bargain anyday.

 

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No offense but if you are buying a Merc 1075 SCI....you are probably not buying a Checkmate to put it in.....

Back to the origional question- I don't think 51K asking price is a crazy price for a very clean 2000 30' w/ alot of upgrades. I doubt if it sells tomorrow at that price and in this market but I would pay for a nice clean boat vs a bargain anyday.

I thought it was a good price for the boat also. This is where I think C/M gets a bad rap -- I know I only own a 21 but I have owned a Hustler -- Donzi --Sutphen and a few quality boats in my day. As far as the build none of these boats has a thing on a C/M. Is it a race boat definately not but it stands on its own as the best sport performance all around boat for the price.
I have said something and I will say it again C/M's gel coat work is as good as it gets and its Pulsare class boats are as straight as an arrow!!!

So show me better!!

 

[BADBK]

$149K.... 25 hr rebuild "recommended"

 

[lcboater]

No offense but if you are buying a Merc 1075 SCI....you are probably not buying a Checkmate to put it in.....

Back to the origional question- I don't think 51K asking price is a crazy price for a very clean 2000 30' w/ alot of upgrades. I doubt if it sells tomorrow at that price and in this market but I would pay for a nice clean boat vs a bargain anyday.

can't we all dream!!!!!!!!!! it is a nice looking boat ,i saw it a couple of days ago when i was looking at 300s for sale on line. even in a down economy the checkmates are holding thier value.

 

[CheckmateFever]

$149K.... 25 hr rebuild "recommended"

Yeah i've seen the 1075sci Mercs priced out in PB mag, 149k is rediculous as far as i'm concerned. I mean where does Mercury justify that cost?? I can build a 1000hp Mopar big block (Hemi!) for a hell of a lot less than 149k!! And it might last more than 25 hours!!!

 

[Big Red]

$149K.... 25 hr rebuild "recommended"

Well that's enough of the Bs for now, show me a Checkmate O/B that can run over 100 thats 30 foot. I will even give you a break this time show me one from 20-30 foot. And it must be a full interior production model just like all the other single I/O's that have went over 100

For the cost of a 1 new 300X I can stick a 100% reliable brand new pump gas with no type of forced air induction, engine in a 300 Convincor and run 84 all day long with fuel and passengers.

Here say is B U L L S H I T put up or shut up. would of, could of, might of, this theory does not cut it

 

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Well that's enough of the Bs for now, show me a Checkmate O/B that can run over 100 thats 30 foot. I will even give you a break this time show me one from 20-30 foot. And it must be a full interior production model just like all the other single I/O's that have went over 100

The C/M boat is not designed for it, never was and never will be!!!! but try to explain to some of the Thick headed members on this site -- If Randy Corson (Wildman) who has built a few fast boats and Tony Calageri (Ocean Outboard) Profession race baot driver with Douglas Skaters. These two Gentleman are outboard experts!!! Not the Johnny come lately's with (DRUG INDUCED IMAGINATIONS)
Read my post!!

For the cost of a 1 new 300X I can stick a 100% reliable brand new pump gas with no type of forced air induction, engine in a 300 Convincor and run 84 all day long with fuel and passengers.

Here say is B U L L S H I T put up or shut up. would of, could of, might of, this theory does not cut it

Red
There are guys on this site that live on fantasy Island. I recently got into it with Hotdaddy and DoubleJ for there fantasy belief that they would do some worthless modifications to a 300xs and get there boats to pick up 5 to 7 miles per hour. I am doing this to long and know enough that mph dont come that easy. C/M DOES NOT have a model outboard boat that will run close to 100 mph The 21 long deck will run 90 with one person and dry on fuel but in reality is a true 82 to 87 mph boat. Thats it!!! The 24 will run 77 with the same empty fuel tank and one person in it, but is a 72 to 75 mph boat.
When guys here start talking about pulling up snap in carpet -- Bow cushions -- you begin to realize that there thought process got detoured along the way -- meaning they should have bought a different boat if there goal were just to go fast and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE WITH THERE BOAT. CheckMate is not a race boat or was it supposed to be!!! That is why I started to express my opinion on the thread -- that seemed to irk them!!!! To bad!!!

All this other stuff is just that bullchit -- Twins on a 24 (lets someone here buy one then they could talk!!!) If it is uch a great idea why isn't C/M marketing a 24 with twins!!! Iwill tell you why -- they have done there research!!! Nobody is going to buy it!!!! -- Poppet valves Simon Flywheels on a new 300xs BULLLLLLCHIT!!!!!!! Zero Nada Waste of money!!!! The only thing that will get these O/B models to go faster is the widening of the pad as and some serious work with the wheel With all of that there two fastest O/B models the 21 and 24 pulsare will never be 100 mph boats or 80+ with dopey engine mods!!!
Mercury builds a 525 that is a work horse that with a single application push all there ORIGINAL C/M MOLDS past the 80 mark but dammmm it will cost ya it is one expensive piece of gold. Now that Mercury has canned the H/O --I have no idea what the new 502 will bring but somehow I think it will do the trick!!!

 

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http://www.oceanoutboard.com/detail.asp?ID=46#


Here is the Website for Ocean Outboard -- Go to the used inventory Check out that mate -- The 30 is the boat I went for a test ride on. He has changed the motors I believe but they are still 2.5 just not the ROS motors that were on the boat when I was aboard but I might be mistaken it wa a while back
Anyway look at the rigging (Masterful) -- for those who suggest triples AHH where would you suggest we put that third mota!! -- nope aint happening
For those who believe 100+ with O/B power!!! Nyet!!!

 

[mkhammer]

Totally disagree with this in a Checkmate. Why would twins be needed when one single can put the 30 footer over 100mph. No twin engine is needed in any Checkmate

That convicor for sale will not do 100.
It cost alot to power a 30 boat over 100 mph. expensive engine, drive and rigging. Short live engine compared to a twin milder set up that would get it there. There is a cut off point for efficiency unless you want a APBA race boat. But if that's what you have or want to put the dough into it. so be it.
I did take into consideration the 30 convicor is actually 28' So for me it's on the bubble.

I am considering a bigger boat in spring a 30' with twins. (I am keeping my convincor)
I have driven quite a few 30 ft and up boats with twins, They are more stable at speeds. Less throttle to get them on plane, Higher cruise speeds at lower rpm. Even if you have expensive killer engines and drives they will last longer you don't have to turn them as hard.
Try docking a 30' single in the wind or just a breeze the twins maneuver much better.
Guys this is my preferance I have reached by experiance. I am opened minded to a good working rig no matter the the size or number of engines.

 

[BADBK]

Well that's enough of the Bs for now, show me a Checkmate O/B that can run over 100 thats 30 foot. I will even give you a break this time show me one from 20-30 foot. And it must be a full interior production model just like all the other single I/O's that have went over 100

For the cost of a 1 new 300X I can stick a 100% reliable brand new pump gas with no type of forced air induction, engine in a 300 Convincor and run 84 all day long with fuel and passengers.

Here say is B U L L S H I T put up or shut up. would of, could of, might of, this theory does not cut it

what is this rambling? Heresay? put up or shut up?

 

[Big Red]

That convicor for sale will not do 100.
It cost alot to power a 30 boat over 100 mph. expensive engine, drive and rigging. Short live engine compared to a twin milder set up that would get it there. There is a cut off point for efficiency unless you want a APBA race boat. But if that's what you have or want to put the dough into it. so be it.
I did take into consideration the 30 convicor is actually 28' So for me it's on the bubble.

I am considering a bigger boat in spring a 30' with twins. (I am keeping my convincor)
I have driven quite a few 30 ft and up boats with twins, They are more stable at speeds. Less throttle to get them on plane, Higher cruise speeds at lower rpm. Even if you have expensive killer engines and drives they will last longer you don't have to turn them as hard.
Try docking a 30' single in the wind or just a breeze the twins maneuver much better.
Guys this is my preference I have reached by experienced. I am opened minded to a good working rig no matter the the size or number of engines.

Yes I do know the boat advertised wont run 100. I was strictly talking about a checkmate not needing twins in a 30. Other boats probably do, due to weight and width and poor ability to get on plane fast and carry the bow high.

I feel 84-85 mph is very easy to obtain in any 30 Convincor and have long engine life and be very user friendly. The 100 mark in any boat takes some serious time engine work and set up twins or not. I can not recall any twin engine boat in the 30 foot range being able to run 100 with ease. Both engines were highly modified or pushing a lot of boost. Unless it was a light cat boat.

Lets also remember the new 30 Convincor is the same length as other 30 foot boats because they all consider the platform as footage. Like a 29 Fountain with a big built in platform and 2 foot of useless beak basically its a 24 foot boat

 

[mkhammer]

Jason has the only 30' convincor on this site that went over 100mph I know of and it had twins. I have raced some DCB extreme 28' w /single engines at Havasu and left them like they were standing still, they claimed big hp and custom engines and 1700 lbs heavier If you ever take a trip to Havasu it's a power war there. I see what works and what doesn't. The cats are a different class the v-bottoms not many run over 100 and if they do they have big money in them. Most I see and that I have been in are 30'+ with twins with serious HP. I saw a guy with a 28' Dana offshore single engine serious rigging 1200+ hp he was over 110 mph. I went over to the beach and looked at it after I saw him hose some cats. I drooled at the Imco 1000 drive ,twin screw whipples on a Dart 598c.i.w/ big chief heads. He had 100k in rigging.
The 28' Howards are all over the place. and the 27' Halletts are so heavy but nice and stable they are a task to push over 100.
I never have been a camera bug but I'm going to start taking a lot more pictures this summer.
In a 30' boat I would have to have twins, The checkmate 30' my be a exception but personally if I got to that size boat I would have to have twins.

 

[lcboater]

kunkel's marine has a 30' single and with a 572 with 9 lb. of boost it gps 107. i saw it happen at the lake cumberland poker run a couple of years ago. the c/m 30 is a fast hull, i have one.it is by no means the fastest but it runs out pretty good. last summer i was on lake norman and ran with a 26 outlaw with a 600 sc. compared to some other boats out thier they are fast for thier size.

 

[mkhammer]

kunkel's marine has a 30' single and with a 572 with 9 lb. of boost it gps 107. i saw it happen at the lake cumberland poker run a couple of years ago. the c/m 30 is a fast hull, i have one.it is by no means the fastest but it runs out pretty good. last summer i was on lake norman and ran with a 26 outlaw with a 600 sc. compared to some other boats out thier they are fast for thier size.

I stand corrected You are absolutely right I thought kunkel's boat had twins, That is a incredible high dollar rig .Still took a 1000 hp and a #6 to get it there. It is in line with the 28' Dana I saw and a few others out this way. Ok I am on your side about the Checks and I must say I have never been in a 30' convincor. They are just not out here. This has gone away from the reason I prefer twins in a 30' and larger boat.
I worked on my boat yesterday to take it out for a speed run at Lake Elsinore. I am looking to break 100mph in my 253. it will do it I just have to.
IC what engine set up and what kind of speeds do you see?